Pitting hunters against hunters.................................................

[Micanopy]

If the shoe fits put it on, tie it up tight, and stuff it!
I wrote this a few years ago due to the fact that many people have a misconception of how some people hunt, and on another board it keeps rering its ugly head. PETA and HSUS dont care how you hunt, they just care that you hunt, and they dont like it. However they will pit huntyer against hunter to achieve their agenda......


Cannibals and Useful Idiots

   The following is real, and it's here now. Joe Hunter goes to a cocktail party, nothing fancy, just a holiday gathering in Anytown, USA. A conversation begins with Bob Peta, it goes something like this.
Bob Peta: Say Joe, didn't you go deer hunting this year?
Joe Hunter: Sure did Bob.
Bob: Man, that's great, did you get one?
Joe: Yep, I sure did, a nice six pointer.
Bob: Hey, that's great. Say listen Joe, you're a true hunter, a "real" hunter are you not?
Joe: I sure am.
Bob: Say, I hear tell of a kind of hunting where people can go kill animals in fenced areas. You've never done that, have you?
Joe: No, no I haven't.
Bob: Well, I wouldn't call that real hunting, would you Joe?
Joe: Well, that's not the way I hunt.
Bob: I know Joe, but there are people who hunt in fenced areas. I don't think that's really hunting, do you Joe?
Joe: well, uh, I guess not.
Bob: Great. Say, listen Joe, a group of us concerned "real" hunters are trying to get that method of hunting done away with. We feel it is unethical, will you help us?
Joe: Sure, because that is not the way I hunt, and I'm a real hunter.
Bob: Thanks Joe. Here is what we need you to do. As a real hunter the big boys in Congress and the Senate will listen to you. They know that any "real" hunter only hunts the way you do, and that's the only real hunting there is. What we need you to do is get out there and get petitions signed, people will sign them because you are a real hunter, and they know that only your way of hunting is the "real" way.
   So Joe diligently goes after the goal, to ban, and outlaw any kind of hunting that Bob suggest is not real hunting. He gathers up signatures, petitions courts, and makes meetings. He is really cleaning up this unethical way of hunting, he's got a lot of support. He is gathering "real" hunters from all over, and finally, after much hard work, they get a legal way of hunting banned.

Bob: Joe, you did great and we sure appreciate your hard work, but let me tell you what I heard. There is another type of hunting that we think is not right. Could you help us again?
Joe: Well I guess so Bob. I don't hunt like that, so it's not real hunting anyway. How can I help?

   It's the same old story. It's odd how Bob Peta keeps adding to the list of what  "real"  hunting is. However, Joe goes at it hard and heavy, and in the end, he helps get that type of hunting banned. Bob and his friends are happy. Joe is a "real" hunter, and these other guy's aren't, because the way they hunt is different from Joe, and Joe does not like that way of hunting. So what's the harm in getting rid of that type of hunting. Joe is a "real" hunter after all, not like those other guys. He even goes to sportsmen's organizations and recruits from within, it's easy because they are all "real" hunters too.
   Time passes, and more and more legal ways of hunting are banned. Bob and his friends are real happy with Joe, he's been a real help. So after all the unethical ways of hunting are gone, Bob and his friends decide that it is time to get Joe's way of hunting banned, the final chapter.

Joe: Bob, hey buddy, this is Joe. I know I helped you get rid of all those other forms of legal hunting, but now there is a move to get rid of the way I hunt.
Bob: Well Joe, I know. My friends and I are spearheading that movement.
Joe: But Bob, I thought you liked the way I hunt, and it was OK for me to do that type of hunting?
Bob: Well Joe, no, any and all types of hunting are bad, the poor defenseless animals never have a chance, and we dislike, actually we hate hunters.
Joe: But I thought the way I hunted was "real" hunting to you?
Bob: Joe, it was all real hunting, but we at PETA and HSUS hate you. Thanks for all your help, we greatly appreciate it.

   You see, what Joe became was a "Cannibal", a"Useful Idiot" to the anti-hunters at HSUS and PETA . They don't give a rats backside how you hunt, what you hunt, or where you hunt, they just want all hunting done away with. The sad thing is that they use hunters against hunters for their causes. If you do not support any and all forms of legal hunting, or voice any decent about the way someone else legally hunts, you my friend are a "Cannibal", and a very "Useful Idiot" to the enemy. Think twice the next time you mouth off against another hunter's methods, they could be coming after you next.

                                                                                  Written by: John Wasmuth
                                                                                   
 

 

[Red Badger]

Amen.....

[Micanopy]

The way I got it figured is this:
Dont matter how ya hunt, long as its leagal, just hunt. High fence, low fence, no fence, just hunt. PETA, HSUS, The Government want any and all hunting outlawed, dont matter how its done, its hunting, the despize hunters, and all hunting. Hunters need to stick together, support any and all LEGAL means to the same end. They love to pit us against each other to divide and conqour or however its spelled. I dont fall for anything they have to offer, none of it.

[Wild Ed]

Here is an article I wrote on my blog about hunters ranting about other hunters in Texas   You might enjoy it.
http://wildedtx.blogspot.com/2009/04/what-is-wrong-with-texas-sportsmen.html

[Micanopy]

Man what a great article ED! Salute!

[redhawk]

Both of you, great articles.  I think many times it is envy and greed that make people act like they do.  I may not agree with the way you hunt, what gun you use, what clothes you wear or what truck you drive. But who am I to say you're wrong and I am right.  To each their own.  I hunt because I enjoy it, not to make a trophy kill all the time.  When I fail to enjoy it I'll hang my gun on the wall and call it quits. How you chose to enjoy it is your choice .

[jbullard1]

It is very easy for hunters to turn against hunters
In Mississippi it is legal to hunt deer with dogs and this is a sore subject with more and more hunters like me. I will not NOT ask that dog hunting be outlawed I only ask do not turn your dogs out on my property then say the dogs can't read. It has happened a few times but is getting better after I a couple of calls to the county Sheriff that is also a good friend of mine. I catch the dogs get the owners name and he has a talk with the owners. So far only one ticket has been written

[Micanopy]

That has to do with private property rights, and rightly so. Hasnt got a thing to do with hunting. Respect for private property is a key factor in hunter against hunter problems. I agree with you on that. We used to hunt with hounds in Florida, North and South Carolina, great tradition. But if you dont want the dogs on your land, they need to respect that.

[Red Badger]

Great articles both of you. 

But we must also endeavor to get all hunters to respect not only each other, but the non- hunter and his/her property also.  The destruction of property should not be tolerated.  how many stop signs have we seen shot up?  What kind of image does that leave Joe Public? Who may have never had any inclination to hunt or stop us from hunting...but now fears for his safety from the gun nuts?

It does us no good if we have the "good Ol Boy" image out there and "Bambi" competing with what we really are...

Story i like to tell in Hunter Ed classes goes roughly like this...

Mom Dad & little Sally are going to Grandma's house for the Holiday... They stop at the diner for breakfast and in comes ol' Gus, ripe from three days out in the field and still has gunk on his boots and legs from getting his buck... He walks over to three of his buddies and  starts talking loudly about the thrill of the kill...  Fast forward to the next trip poor little Sally is a little older and just coming out of therapy for the traumatic incident last year...
  Big Joe pulls up next to their car on the highway with the nice big (dead) elk staring with those big dead eyes at little Sally.... More therapy.... Several years later Sally is going out with the governors son and the governor needs the youth vote so he asks Sally to be on the Wildlife council....  Sally says yes and when it comes time to set hunting regs Sally says No because she is still traumatized from the experiences of her youth...

BTW true story out of Colorado...

[Ironwood]

All the above is good stuff.  However, aren't we doing the same thing when we curse Inlines?  Yeah I know I don't like them either!  However, in the long run it doesn't matter what you shoot or hunt with.  We just need to stay unified in our efforts to protect our shooting and hunting rights. 

[Dryball]

Don't know about you Gene, but I don't curse inlines...just don't believe they're real muzzleloaders, nor do they serve a real purpose.

Dennis

[Ironwood]

Dennis, Sorry, but that statement wasn't aimed at you. Just talking in generalities. I don't like inlines either like I said above.  However, they are a large part of the hunting community, and they are not going away, no matter how we feel about them.  Better to have them than have a segment of hunting and shooting eliminated.

[Red Badger]

I don't believe our "prejudice" against "that which shall remain unspoken" on either of these sites contributes to what we are talking about here... Both sites are Traditional...  there are other sites for the "that which shall remain unspoken" where they are welcome.

We are not talking about restricting those individuals hunting rights when we ask to keep our sites traditional and historically correct...(at least relatively correct).

At least thats my 2 cents worth....

Hey Dennis, can we get the 2 cents emote form Jean?

[Dryball]

Worth a try.

[Ironwood]

JammingJim  hit the alternate key and numerical keyboard 155 that will get you a ¢ and you can add your own .02¢