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Title: A Little Bit of Mixing
Post by: Hanshi on January 20, 2020, 06:44:33 PM
This thought just hit me - no, don't stand in line for your turn.  It seems common for people of European (maybe others) descent to boast of having American Indian ancestry; something from a known relation far back.  But has anyone ever heard of people of American Indian descent speak proudly of being 1/8, 1/4 or 1/2 "white"?

I do know - and this includes at least 98% of those of European descent - that we can brag about having 3% to 5% Neanderthal dna.  In my case I know for sure and here is a photo of my great grandfather; okay, he's Klingon, not Neanderthal but not much difference.  Hotfxr, do you have a photo of him that maybe I haven't seen?
(https://i.postimg.cc/L50wgw7r/klingon-2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: A Little Bit of Mixing
Post by: hotfxr on January 20, 2020, 08:13:21 PM
Quote from: Hanshi on January 20, 2020, 06:44:33 PM
This thought just hit me - no, don't stand in line for your turn.  It seems common for people of European (maybe others) descent to boast of having American Indian ancestry; something from a known relation far back.  But has anyone ever heard of people of American Indian descent speak proudly of being 1/8, 1/4 or 1/2 "white"?

I do know - and this includes at least 98% of those of European descent - that we can brag about having 3% to 5% Neanderthal dna.  In my case I know for sure and here is a photo of my great grandfather; okay, he's Klingon, not Neanderthal but not much difference.  Hotfxr, do you have a photo of him that maybe I haven't seen?
(https://i.postimg.cc/L50wgw7r/klingon-2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Just this one from that one strange night.

(https://i.postimg.cc/64N9BDGT/44132722-gorilla-kirsty-mellish.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/64N9BDGT)

Kinda helps explain why we are the way we are.  ucrzy
Title: Re: A Little Bit of Mixing
Post by: Hanshi on January 20, 2020, 09:43:15 PM
Personally, I find the resemblance to be very satisfying.  I like making an impression that sends others running.  Talk about fun!  :applause:
Title: Re: A Little Bit of Mixing
Post by: beowulf on January 21, 2020, 02:42:42 AM
lot of us have that neanderthal DNA , my ex was a bit different , her family was from northern europe ,  here`s a photo of her great ,great garnd dad ,  been told he was a toll collector ,and lived under a bridge !  ROFL
Title: Re: A Little Bit of Mixing
Post by: Red Badger on January 23, 2020, 08:12:21 PM
To get this discussion back on track, The reason most folks don't say how much European blood they have is that there is no benefit in quantifying the blood count like they do for Native American tribal memberships.

Why do we need to to identify the differences between us?  Why can't we live in peace and harmony?  I guess this Master's Degree program is causing me to look at life different. 
Title: Re: A Little Bit of Mixing
Post by: beowulf on January 23, 2020, 08:37:16 PM
Quote from: Red Badger on January 23, 2020, 08:12:21 PM
To get this discussion back on track, The reason most folks don't say how much European blood they have is that there is no benefit in quantifying the blood count like they do for Native American tribal memberships.

Why do we need to to identify the differences between us?  Why can't we live in peace and harmony?  I guess this Master's Degree program is causing me to look at life different.
differently ? no! you are one of the very few lookng at it correctly !  dntn
Title: Re: A Little Bit of Mixing
Post by: Patocazador on January 24, 2020, 01:42:23 AM
Everyone hears family stories about "Uncle John's grandfather was half Cherokee." So they want to see if they have Indian blood and where the rest of their ancestors came from. I don't think it's to separate themselves from anything.

My daughter had me take a DNA test. It turned out that my grandmother from "Irish parents" was really Lithuanian. She ran away from home as a young teen because her stepfather was abusing her. She assumed a new identity and never told anyone. Her kids thought they were Irish. The DNA connected me to a third cousin who knew the whole family history including the abuses.

Many people claim to have an ancestor with Indian blood like Elizabeth Warren did. When the DNA is checked more than 70% find it's just a family legend.
Title: Re: A Little Bit of Mixing
Post by: beowulf on January 21, 2022, 03:35:17 PM
you might find this interesting ! seems native americans , and white europeans have some common ancestors ! According to researchers behind a study published in PNAS last week, nearly half the Indian population has inherited a 75,000-character-long DNA sequence from Neanderthals that is believed to reduce the risk of severe disease due to Covid-19
Title: Re: A Little Bit of Mixing
Post by: Hanshi on January 22, 2022, 09:38:32 PM
Yeah, boss, peace and harmony are wonderful for mankind; but, but, it's no fun!  :mini-devil-28492:
Title: Re: A Little Bit of Mixing
Post by: Hanshi on January 22, 2022, 09:47:53 PM
I don't have the results from my DNA check just a few years ago, at least not right at hand.  But I have a good portion of European; Scot, Brit, Scandinavian and maybe something else in the mix.  But there was also a lot of "stuff" that was, well, bizarre.  Okay, now do not say it!!  So far nothing extraterrestrial has popped up. skrt
Title: Re: A Little Bit of Mixing
Post by: beowulf on January 23, 2022, 01:45:17 AM
once told an obnoxious fool I worked with that I was half vulcan , and half klingon , when he asked what that meant ,I told him it meant I would have a perfectly logical reason for whooping his tail if he kept acting like a fool ! you should have heard the boss laugh at that one !
Title: Re: A Little Bit of Mixing
Post by: Hanshi on January 23, 2022, 08:48:01 PM
OH, beowulf, that was inspired!
Title: Re: A Little Bit of Mixing
Post by: Hanshi on January 26, 2022, 08:33:36 PM
With respect to this discussion, I will mention my on claim to native heritage.  Turns out I'm actually 50% "Scrawnee".  I have a couple of friends who are 100% "Squatee".