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The age old question, spur up or spur down?

Started by Ironwood, August 17, 2008, 01:46:22 PM

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Ironwood



Ok you folks that shoot cast patched roundballs.  Do you like to have the spur up or down?  I cast the Lee roundballs.  I'm not sure it make that much difference with those.  I still try to always turn the spur up.  What do y'all prefer? 

Mr Woodchuck

upp facin ya as ya load ... that way ya know it be center ... hurd it makes no difference but to me it does,
  do not know why   just because
lol

bwhoffman

With my Lee molds, it makes no never mind to me. But now with my lyman molds, its sprue up.


bull frog

I always put sprue up, "why", don't know.  I can't say I really noticed the difference either way.  Always been told to do it that way so I do it......Bullfrog

tom-h


FrankG


fd-ems-emt

It's not what tool you use to hunt with.
It's that you use the tool Legally and Ethically

NYS Hunter Safety Instructor
Retired- NYC Fire Dept 2005

little jim

SPUR UP ! And here's why. If you cut some of your own or bought cast balls in half, I'll venture to say you'll find holes(voids or vacuum spaces) in most of them. The voids are always perpendicular to the earth and located somewhere between the center and the upper part of the ball. The balls pictured below are from a bottom cast furnace. You can tell because of the position of the void. On a ladle cast ball you'll have the mold canted to facilitate runoff of the molten lead, hence the the void(if any) will be at an angle. By loading spur up you'll have a more constant ball rotation, as the gyroscopic center will be more constant from one ball to the other. This is nitpicking, but can and will make a slight difference..
At a later date I'll how post to cast 95-99% void free balls.

Ironwood

Lil Jim...... Looking forward to that "how to". 

bull frog

Well that was interesting, never would have thought of that.  But then, never would have thought to cut my round balls in half either.  Anyway, looking forward to the next post.................Bullfrog

fd-ems-emt

It's not what tool you use to hunt with.
It's that you use the tool Legally and Ethically

NYS Hunter Safety Instructor
Retired- NYC Fire Dept 2005

Chaffa Hosa

I vibrate my balls and load them just however they lay on the patch

Lady of the Woods

sprue up fer me, never had a real reason before but do now...thanks little jim, 'preciate the info!
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Da Backwoodsman

sprue up for me... ol timer told me if the sprue got in the rifling it could throw your shot off

little jim

Quote from: Da Backwoodsman on August 19, 2008, 01:08:28 AM
ol timer told me if the sprue got in the rifling it could throw your shot off
Of course that ain't true. But he knew something was askew and that was a his rational assumption. When you tumble the spurs off, the bigger voids will show thru as a dimple. The ones you see here probably won't show. You can see that if you align the voids at different positions the gyroscopic centers will be quite different...