Need some opinions

[Red Badger]

OOPs i just used the initials he used.... didn't even look at the website...

[beowulf]

I have an mvt brown bess , and have never had a single problem with it ! the wood is`nt walnut ,it`s rose wood ,and therefore a bit heavier . which is fine for those who like less recoil ! the frizzen throws a great shower of sparks and so far has bee very dependable ! and being the cheap bugger that I am ,I would rather pay $475 than $1,000 or more !

[Micanopy]

I am still searching for the burst barrel incident via the internet. I have read second, third, forth, and so on accounts of this happening, however the sources that have writen of it cant point to where it took place, when and what not. Not that I doubt them, I just want to read it first hand. The pictures of the rifles on the Middlesex Village Trading Co. look good and I am curious about the dog lock rifle.

[n5lyc]

I Found it.
2 links, 1 discusses it, the other is to the actual page
Here is a Picture.

http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/topic/1466
http://www.n-ssa.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=9758&sid=3153f12d77deef85d532ec34ed2e7752

I wonder how long it would hold up to 60-80gr. FF and a patched ball?
Ian

[Micanopy]

Great, thanks!

[n5lyc]

Hey don't get me wrong, i still want one, i just wonder about the feasibility of ordering one and having or putting a better barrel on it.
i think you still would be cheaper than a $1000 gun.

oh and they warranty the locks for life right?
and SHOULD be able to get a quality tube and breech plug fitted for $100 - $150 right?

Ian

[beowulf]

from what I`ve heard, I`d say either the gun was overcharged ,or the ball was`nt seated properly ! and regardless of what some will tell you ,it is very possible to overcharge a muzzle loader , especially a smooth bore since the barrel is thinner than that of a rifle !

[titus]

that burst musket has been beat to death over all forums. theres a lab report also on the burst barrel. this partucular one was burst at a re enactment firing blanks, no ball. i have handled several of these, ranging from pure junk to some decent LOOKING ones. it all boils down to how much value you put on saving a dime on a gun or blowing youself up.

http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/special/HPWhiteReportWithPersonalInfoBlocked.pdf

[DandJofAZ]

Sounds like if you shoot enough without cleaning, you can go boom.

[hank-aye]

that burst musket has been beat to death over all forums. theres a lab report also on the burst barrel. this partucular one was burst at a re enactment firing blanks, no ball. i have handled several of these, ranging from pure junk to some decent LOOKING ones. it all boils down to how much value you put on saving a dime on a gun or blowing youself up.

http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/special/HPWhiteReportWithPersonalInfoBlocked.pdf

This makes more than a bit of sense ta me.
If'n yer gonna use it CLEAN IT

[Beau48]

Think I will stick with proofed barrels, jus to be safe 

[hank-aye]

Think I will stick with proofed barrels, jus to be safe 

Hopefully this link will take you to Ch. 11 in the book.
Long story = short; The U.S. of A. does not require Proof marks. WE, have SAAMI. They do the "unmentioniables" Not black powder. As i write this I am still Looking for something to see if there is a "Proofing Process" for our beloved BP firearms.
If ya goes to Wickipedia (ya, I know), and check out Proof Marks they have a listing for National Proof marks in the countries that do recoginize them
http://books.google.com/books?

id=YkcvshsGhagC&pg=PA369&lpg=PA369&dq=firearm+proof+marks&source=bl&ots=mEBJZaAR4J&sig=CMhcqLLobg1MEFfKmAqOBBT1B1o&hl=en&ei=dTnFSqeSGdTR8Abb7exC&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CB4Q6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=firearm%20proof%20marks&f=false


Live long an hang on to yer fingers.
hankaye


Oh, yea I'm going with a "Home Made" (USA), gun

[Beau48]

Always proof my own.

double powder charge, double ball, string attached to trigger and and set in a tire then weighted down.

almost forgot, fingers crossed also, lol

[n5lyc]

Proofing your own, Hmmmmm...

Just a couple of questions...

I am sure that would void any warranty in the business.

IF it didn't stand up to the double charge & double ball. what would you have done with said destroyed rifle/shotgun?

Try to return it to the store or individual from who you purchased it?

What would you have told them when you did?

Would you just eat the $400 - $1000 you paid for the piece, hang it on the wall, and call it a Thank Goodness, lesson learned?

Just interested.

Ian

[Beau48]

I set it up so that the wood was not needed, just the lock and barrel and spacers to hold the trigger in place so they could be used, have done it twice, no problems, charge was 130 grains of 2F.