percussion caps

[beowulf]

was just on gunbroker.com ! they have 2,500 muzzleloaders listed , and other related items . I`m sorry , but those people should be swinging on the same gibbet as most politicians , I`ll sell my percussion guns as scrap metal before I pay $34.95 for a tin of caps , or pay $160.00 for three tins of caps !  it aint happening ! saw only one good deal so far, uberti revolving carbine , new unfired ,in the box , $650 plus 30 bucks to ship ! but over all , if you are looking for a good used muzzleoader on the site expect to pay ,new  AR 15 prices for used guns !

[bmtshooter]

That's enough to make one explore converting those cap guns to flint.

[topbreak]

There is a guy on youtube who follows the ML industry and he said the cap manufacturers are still trying to catch up on modern ammo and it will be awhile before they can ramp up cap production. Us traditionalists are too small a market to be a priority I guess. I paid an arm and a leg for 300 caps via mail order. Won't do that again unless I have no other choice. Good thing I have a healthy supply of caps that should last awhile. Once supply goes up the prices ought to come down at least that's how it used to work.

Don

[beowulf]

I dont believe that , there are several guys selling ten tins of caps , prices have dropped over night , but are still high $85- $90  for two tins ,$199 f0r 5 tins  $299 for 10 tins ! and those are`nt purchasing prices , they are starting bids , what I think is actually going on , is the same thing that happened with the heritage arms carbine , crooked dealers are buying everything being produced , and jacking up prices ! for two years you could not find the carbines in any store , but they were all over gun broker ,with starting bids well over $400 bucks , that`s for a rifle with a suggested msr of right around $300 , some were selling for as high as $750 , and heritage had been pumping them out as one of their major products , now they are everywhere , Got mine last thanksgiving for under the msr , and they are now available at the rural king in town and I`ve seen several at decent prices at gun shows in the area ! it`s price gouging , I`d bet on it !

[beowulf]

one of the actually interesting things on gun broker right now is the make your own black powder kits , instructions and materials to make ten pounds of black powder for $129 , sounds like a good deal ! and some of the dealers start their bids at a reasonable amount , there are several nice percussion rifles that are in the affordable area , and all the doodads to make stuff work ,and keep them in working condition ! but then there are the others ! lol I may be crazy , but I`m not willing to make a bid of $350 on a badly used pietta 1851 brass frame , when I bought a new steel frame  ten years ago for $110 , plus shipping ! asking new prices for beat up and abused guns is insane . I`m betting some of these guys have been trying to sell the same pieces for years !some of the dealers at the gunshows have had the same items on their tables for 15 years , and some one will likely inherit them , and sell them off cheap at an auction, hell , sell them at a fair price , make a normal profit , and put that money in the bank !

[flintboomer]

The information that I have is that percussion caps will not likely be made until 2025. RWS is supporting Ukraine and has no leftover production capability for a small market like percussion caps. The US makers are still trying to catch up to the demandfor ammunition and then primers, so no one is currently making any. If you find caps they are old stock brought out of a warehouse somewhere.

When supplies are tighter than demand the price goes up and people start hoarding. I bought a large supply years ago and am still using them.

[beowulf]

The information that I have is that percussion caps will not likely be made until 2025. RWS is supporting Ukraine and has no leftover production capability for a small market like percussion caps. The US makers are still trying to catch up to the demandfor ammunition and then primers, so no one is currently making any. If you find caps they are old stock brought out of a warehouse somewhere.

When supplies are tighter than demand the price goes up and people start hoarding. I bought a large supply years ago and am still using them.

hoarding would seem to be the way to go , but they are available at the guns shows for a lot less  it`s possible to get two tins for 20 bucks at the shows rather than 80 bucks or more !  the online auction allows price gouging !

[Hanshi]

No more than I shoot my percussions I have enough caps to last a pretty long time.  Several years ago I bought 1,000 #11 caps and already had a small supply left over from long ago.  I also managed to get my hands on a few hundred musket caps.  I also still have a few #10s.  At least 98% of my shooting is with flint.

[Patocazador]

I have 6 tins of caps left. I converted my favorite hunting gun over to 209 primers with a Mag-Spark in place of a nipple. Now it will even fire Blackhorn 209 reliably and I don't have to rely on hygroscopic powder.

I still have to use black powder in my flinters. I won't use Pyrodex under any circumstances regardless of shortages.

[ChrisHarris]

I bought 5000 from Grafs and sad to say I still got a bunch of em left.  I haven't been shooting in a few years.

[beowulf]

There is a guy on youtube who follows the ML industry and he said the cap manufacturers are still trying to catch up on modern ammo and it will be awhile before they can ramp up cap production. Us traditionalists are too small a market to be a priority I guess. I paid an arm and a leg for 300 caps via mail order. Won't do that again unless I have no other choice. Good thing I have a healthy supply of caps that should last awhile. Once supply goes up the prices ought to come down at least that's how it used to work.

Don

and that`s the problem , " that`s how it used to work "  danged little is coming down in price , instead we get a bit less for the same price , so those tins of 50 caps at 5 bucks a tin are likely on their way !