Favorite make of rifle

[kit_carson]

T/Cs are made in the USA and always have been.  Invest Arms is an Italian company and always has been.

ok this is really gonna hurt your feelings to, T/C barrels, triggers, and locks are made by invest arms and all interchange with the lyman, you know like ford and mercury. lyman is made in the usa also always has been. you going to have to get used to the idea that T/C parts are made in italy, heres another bubble burster for you not one part ona new harley davidson is made in this country, there crankcase has hecho en brazel, that aint spanish for made in milwalkee!

[Ironwood]

Crow Killer I hate to break this on you.  I just copied this from the Lyman website FAQ. 

- FAQs »
Muzzle LoadersMUZZLE LOADING RIFLESQ:

Where are the Lyman rifles made?
A: These are made in Italy, by Investarm.

[kit_carson]

my point was, and you missed it, so are the parts for T/C

[Ironwood]

Crow killer.... I was just thinking you might want to correct a statement you made..."lyman is made in the usa also always has been."  That was my point.  Sorry you didn't get it.   

[kit_carson]

no i did get it, what youmissed was i was being sarcastic

[Dryball]

Both of you...Gene and Jean...cool it.

Ned

[kit_carson]

sorry, i tend to go on a bit about the lyman T/C thing, why people dont get that they are both investarms i dont understand

[Swampman]

T/C parts are not made by Investarms.  They are made in the U.S.A. by T/C.  I know this for a fact.

Most Harley parts are made right here in the US.  I know this for a fact as well.

Only the forks, shocks, fuel injection, electronics, and a few plastic bits are not made in the US.

[Ranger]

Direct from the T/C web site...

http://www.tcarms.com/firearms/mzTraditional.php

HAWKEN
A TOP QUALITY, AMERICAN MADE MUZZLELOADING RIFLE
In .50 Caliber Cap Lock Or .50 Caliber Flint Lock

Undoubtedly the most copied rifle in the history of firearms, the T/C Hawken™ was designed for the American shooter. This is a top quality firearm—every bit as fine as the one your great, great granddaddy carried across his saddle pommel or packed along on the wagon train. It captures the romance of the original but it is manufactured to standards of quality control that were unheard of in the early 1800's. The proper use of the inves™ent casting, improved methods of hardening parts and deep hole drilling, the use of continuous Magnaflux process to guard against imperfections in the steel itself coupled to our constant attention to min./max. tolerances is what allows us to offer a Lifetime Warranty! Inspect a T/C Hawken™ at your local dealer and compare it to all other brands before you purchase. We manufacture the finest quality muzzleloading firearms available.

 
T/C's famous Hawken™ Rifle is complemented by solid brass hardware. The butt plate, trigger guard and contoured patch box have been meticulously inletted and fitted to the American Walnut stock.



Now, I didn't look this up to spit in anyones eye, just to settle the question. Now, in my opinion, T/C is a decent gun, but way to pricey for my blood. You can buy a complete Dickert kit from TOW for what they want for a flinter from Thompson.

[kit_carson]

T/C parts are not made by Investarms.  They are made in the U.S.A. by T/C.  I know this for a fact.

Most Harley parts are made right here in the US.  I know this for a fact as well.

Only the forks, shocks, fuel injection, electronics, and a few plastic bits are not made in the US.

all the engine parts are made in brazil,  and the barrels, triggers, and locks on the T/C's interchange with the lymans and investarms, why, because they are made in italy. the way the law works is if final assembly is done here, you get to say made in usa.

i mean really, do you think its a coincidence that i can pull my coil spring lock out of my lyman, swap parts with a T/C and stick the whole program back in the T/C? its the same as pulling a 5.0 engine out of a mercury, and sticking it in a ford.

[kit_carson]

Now, I didn't look this up to spit in anyones eye, just to settle the question. Now, in my opinion, T/C is a decent gun, but way to pricey for my blood. You can buy a complete Dickert kit from TOW for what they want for a flinter from Thompson.

true they are decent guns! so are lymans, investarms, cabelas. you just get alot more for your money with the lyman.
(ford lincoln mercury)

[Ranger]

OK. I've fired off an email to T/C. Hopefully they will send us an answer soon. It could be that you are correct about the assembled in the USA thing. On the other hand, I have a large siler mainspring in my pedersoli Bess. Now it took some work, but its there. lol. 

[kit_carson]

and i have replaced parts in my lyman lock with T/C parts(needed a tumbler fast) and used the T/C coil spring

[Ranger]

It appears that we are both...Master Parts Pirates!  Make do with what you have! lol. Its funny, I was gettin ready to go to a re-enactment and all I did was cock the lock to check the flint before I left my house and I heard it snap. My heart sank! So I rummage thru the ol parts box and found the only extra main spring I had and MADE it work. Slow work on the belt grinder and a spot of silver solder on the lock plate to hold everything together. That was only supposed to last the day, that was 1 year and a half ago! 

[kit_carson]

to true! lucky me the parts dropped in!