Remington Rolling Block

[Elkinde]

Anyone else out there buy one of the Rem.Rolling Block rifles made by D.Pedersoli that Cabelas offered a couple years ago? Nice piece of workmanship but would have liked a fancier stock. Thing shoots beautiful at 100 yrds. Bought me a creedmore sight for it incase I'd try some 200 yrd. shots.

[graybear]

I don't know what kind of sights your RB has but my Pedersoli 1874 Sharps has a blade front and a Lawrence ladder rear and the only time I tried 200yds, I just flipped up the Lawrence  and rang the 8" gong 4 for 4. I've seen some RB's with the ladder rear sights. If yours is one, maybe it will work out. My Sharps is a Cabelas purchase.

[Elkinde]

The bottom gun is the Rem. Rolling Block Muzzleloader by Pedersoli.

[beowulf]

what the devil is the top one in the picture ?

[Elkinde]

That's a King Model D Markham air rifle BB. made in Plymouth< Michigan. It's about 80 years old. Used to be my Father-in-Laws childhood plinker.

[graybear]

Sorry. Didn't realize you were talking about the muzzleloader.R.B. I looked at a 45/70 R.B. and a trapdoor by Pedersoli the same day I bought my Sharps at the Wheeling WV Cabelas. My wife said get whatever you want so I got the Sharps. Does the Markham still work? Looks cool.

[Elkinde]

Yes it does! I could almost put your eye out with it. Spring loaded. Pretty old spring.

[beowulf]

interesting little air rifle! lot of people don`t realise how far back air rifles go !

[Hawken50]

  Yep ,Lewis and Clark had one on their trip west.

[texasranger]

got an original rolling block been rebored to 7mm mauser and boy does she shoot nice. got no problem hitting a 10 in. gong out to two hundred yards with a peep sight. and that is with my old eyes.

[Otter]

Have two original RB's my own self. One is an old #4 in uh a non muzzle loading commonly found rimfire and the other is a much reworked #5 in .45-100. OKAY I don't load that one from the front either. It does eat only the real powder though. Otta count for something.

[Red Badger]

Have two original RB's my own self. One is an old #4 in uh a non muzzle loading commonly found rimfire and the other is a much reworked #5 in .45-100. OKAY I don't load that one from the front either. It does eat only the real powder though. Otta count for something.

Nope.....    Actually I think it does qualify because it uses BP and not smokless - the line blurrs a bit at that time period....

I wonder (thats dangerous) during that transition time was there a substantal number of accidents from people inadvertantly grabbing a smokeless cartridge and putting it in a bp rifle or shotgun?  I know my grandfather had a dramascus barrelled side by side that shot BP cartridges that my uncle almost killed himself with when he grabbed some 12 guage shells that were not BP....    I wish I had some pictures of the gun after that little fiasco but I was only abouyt 10 at the time...

[Mortblanc]

I wonder (thats dangerous) during that transition time was there a substantal number of accidents from people inadvertantly grabbing a smokeless cartridge and putting it in a bp rifle or shotgun?





What wound up happening was the manufactureres loaded down some calibers so light that they became almost useless.  They did this with the .38 spl and the .44 spl and .45 LC.  When they got through with the .45-70 it was about as powerful as a .22 magnum!   They were all considered whimp rounds until the last couple of decades when their popularity increased as the old BP firearms were absorbed by collectors and taken out of the hands of tin can shooters.

The shotgun loads were heavily advertised as not suitable for old damascus barrels and many fine shotguns were hung over the mantle and allowed to rot because no one was reloading BP shells.  

Lost of fokks do not realize that in the 50s-60s and 70s black powder was often difficult to find.  I remember shooting cannon grade powder because I could get nothing else in my area.  It did not get its resurgence until Jerimiah Johnson made the Hawkin a regular part of movie vocabulary.  Suddenly you had not only BP but also BP-substitutes out the wazoo and folks decided to load shells for the old smokepoles.

[Otter]

In regards to the .45-70 modern rounds were loaded to the maximum pressure that the weakest action would tolerate. That happened to be the trapdoor Springfield conversion. This from the numerous lawsuits from people not able to understand that they should be responsible for the selection of ammunition for their own firearm. Another example of pass the buck and an outrageous sense of entitlement. The sound you now hear is me getting off the soapbox.