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In the Field => Gone Shootin => Topic started by: Razor on July 21, 2010

Title: Spit patches..
Post by: Razor on July 21, 2010
Went shooting at a new range today
Met up with the local ML group for the Wed. morning get-together..  :applause:
I forgot my lubed (Olive oil) patches.  hdslp
One feller said "spit patches is best, cleans as you go an' you never run out"
DANG if'n he weren't right...!!
Throwed a patch in my mouth, held it there while measuring and loading the powder.
Loaded and shot.
Put 10 rds down range, one dry patch after 5 rds just for giggles.
Never did get the 3rd 'er 4th rd 'stickies'...
Came home and cleaned my rifle with 2 wet patches... dntn
followed by 2 dry patches and 1 oil patch..
First dry patch came out clean, but had to run another one to be sure.
That's it !
Done !  ... just like that ... (susp)
I'm gonna check the bore again tomorrow, if all is good, then the heck with all that fancy stuff..
Title: Re: Spit patches..
Post by: Ironwood on July 22, 2010
You know, I tried spit patches 6 or 7 years ago.  Didn't try more than a couple I think.  I may just cut a few and try spit a little more.  I think just about all of my patches I have on hand have olive oil on them.
Title: Re: Spit patches..
Post by: Wyoming Mike on July 22, 2010
About 35 years ago when I started into this hobby, I used all kinds of stuff for patch lube.  Some worked alright others didn't.  Back then we had a person who was kind of a PITA but was a very good shot.  I was watching him at a shoot and him and his friend were spraying their patches with water.  Five squirts on each side.  I thought it betrayed a little OCD but it was working for him.  I figured if water was working for him, spit should work just fine also.

I started using spit.  It works as well as moose milk, Hoppie's or any other wet lube.  Unlike the other lubes I don't have to pack around something to keep the patches in while they soak.  With the right patch and ball combo, it keeps the barrel in the same state from shot to shot.  For the range and competition shooting it can't be beat.

The only time I use a greasy lube is when I'm hunting and don't want the patch to dry out between the few shots you will have during the day.
Title: Re: Spit patches..
Post by: old salt on July 22, 2010
I have used spit patches for years. The old timers that I started shooting with told me that there was some thing in the spit that keeps the fowling soft that is the reason you can shoot a longer string before having to run
a cleaning patch down the bore. They told me that is also made clean up faster and easy-er.
Some of the clubs I shoot had shoot strings of 20-25 targets. most of the time I can shoot the whole set without having to swab the barrel.
Your milage may differ
Title: Re: Spit patches..
Post by: Hanshi on July 22, 2010
Like Mike, I load a grease patch with my first load when I head out into the field, but that's my only use of grease type lubes.  All reloads are with Hoppes, Black Solve or something similar.  When I bought my first muzzle gun I used spit patch exclusively.  As I aged I tended to run dry when many shots were fired such as a range session; especially problematic during summer.  While I won't say spit patch is the best lube, I will say it's every bit as good as anything you can buy or concoct.
Title: Re: Spit patches..
Post by: flintboomer on July 22, 2010
Some guns like spit patches and some don't. I won't hunt with it but most of my target work is done with spit patches and if you keep the loads on the light side you can shoot all day without having to clean until the end of the day.
So far my Sharon barrel likes a heavy load and spit patch and still just keeps on shooting. The biggest difference I see with this one is that it takes a little longer to clean up, but that means about 6 patches instead of 3, then dry patch and lube.
Title: Re: Spit patches..
Post by: sherpa on July 22, 2010
I use bore butter or the CVA brand equivelant (whose name escapes me) when I lube my patches for loading. However I always swab the bore with a spit soaked patch and a dry patch when reloading at the range. I then fire one cap off just to ease my mind about any moisture being in there (probably not necessary I know). I can shoot indefinetly like this at the range and it doesn't really take much time. So I agree ther eis something about spit that just works for almost anything. Kind of like Windex, LOL
Title: Re: Spit patches..
Post by: battman1 on July 22, 2010
I use a spit patch but I have to run a cleaning patch atleast everyother or every third shot.I can shoot like that all day but I can't shoot any amount of shots without running a patch in between.
Title: Re: Spit patches..
Post by: Razor on July 22, 2010
OK.. it's official...
Spit patch it is from now on..
Checked the bore.. shiney as the day it was born.. dntn
I ran a dry patch just to check..spotless  ;D
Like I mentioned in the OP, I had been using olive oil, olive oil/beeswax, crisco etc.
But I recall getting lots more fouling and had to swab the bore about every 3 shots.
With spit patch, every succeeding load had the same relative degree of resistance..(very little)
I'm not a hunter, but the merit of using a lube for the field makes sense.
Thanks for relating your experiences fellas.
Title: Re: Spit patches..
Post by: Red Badger on July 23, 2010
Just remember Spit patches and chewin tabacci don't mix!
hdslp
Title: Re: Spit patches..
Post by: BRIAR on July 23, 2010
I WAS JUST FIXIN TO ASK THAT QUESTION. I DIP AND WONDERED IF IT WOULD HURT ANYTHING.
Title: Re: Spit patches..
Post by: bull frog on July 23, 2010
Always have, and still do on occasion, use spit patches.  There are three potential problems I have found with much experimentation:
1.  the sooner you fire the arm the better.....a spit patch will eventually dry out over time......there goes the lube.
2.  It is best to carry some drinking water with you.......a very uncomfortable and dry mouth can result.
3.  make sure your patch material is clean......and separate from other (lubed patches) patches...don't ask....have found some awful nasty tasting substances on what I thought was clean patches in my shooting bag. 
Title: Re: Spit patches..
Post by: Ranger on July 23, 2010
I actually cut my patches ahead for a shoot and put them in an Altoids tin with a couple mints left in it.

Title: Re: Spit patches..
Post by: flintboomer on July 23, 2010
Bullfrog is right, don't wait too long before firing the shot and, especially on a hot day, drink plenty of WATER.
It also helps to eat a little during the day to keep your energy at a good level, especially at a big shoot or rondy.
Title: Re: Spit patches..
Post by: Bulldog lady on July 23, 2010
I'ma learning ever day,  just keeps in mind if'nya cut your self on a flint or what ever, human spit (saliva, bite) is one of them  thar nastiest things ever around,  Now's on the other hand, ifn ya got your old hound around they's good cleaning to lick your wounds.   'SNTY"
Title: Re: Spit patches..
Post by: voyageur1688 on July 23, 2010
  Havent tried a spit patch yet. Have been usin sweet oil for quite a while now with good success. I may try it but then again, I like to do things exactly the same for target shootin as I do for when I am hunting just for accuracy sake. Rather stay consistant than to change anything, but thats just ghow I am.
Voy
Title: Re: Spit patches..
Post by: spitpatch on July 24, 2010
That is why my handle is "spitpatch."  It works first time everytime.  But, like others here, if I am hunting, I will use Bore Butter or Crisco on the  patch.  If I have to reload, then it will be a spitpatch.  And yes,  a Bore Butter patch is very nasty tasting.  A Crisco one is not too bad. LOL...

Draw a fine bead on em Son.   Bobby
Title: Re: Spit patches..
Post by: bull frog on July 24, 2010
The best hunting application I have found, for me at least, where spit patches are concerned, is in a good patch of squirrel woods when the little devils are active.  Load one and pop a second patch in your mouth for the next shot.  You know you are going to get a shot before long. 
Title: Re: Spit patches..
Post by: voyageur1688 on July 24, 2010
I might be foolish/ignorant/paranoid on my view here but as cold as it gets where I hunt I dont think youd be able to get  the ball slid home before it would be frozen solid. Aint sure if a frozen patch would be a good thing or not.
Voy
Title: Re: Spit patches..
Post by: Red Badger on July 25, 2010
Knowing the temps where voy is I would have to agree with him about frozen patches.... but when I shot patience here in jan at -5 I had no problems.... although to voy -5 is warm.... hdslp
Title: Re: Spit patches..
Post by: voyageur1688 on July 26, 2010
  Yup, -5 is warm for winters here.(darn near t-shirt/shorts weather) The coldest I remember it being when I went out ice fishing was more than -60.  (cars do not like to run when its that cold though--barely got my  old truck to start and had to wait with it idling for bout an hour to be able to shift it due to the gear lube in the trans being to stiff) Been out deer hunting at more than -40 several times. Winters here are NOT for wimps.  Learned many years ago that you can tell how bad the winter is going to be by checking how much fat is on  a deers back.
  Voy