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Title: Help with plant ID
Post by: KHickam on May 25, 2010, 12:29:38 AM
I found this plant growing here on the farm.  I am familiar with different berry plants in my home state and region, but I am not familiar with Texas plants.

It is a small shrub

The branches have alternating small leaves. 

It has small blue/black berries in clusters growing off the branch.

What is it?

Search on the internet has not been fruitful.
Title: Re: Help with plant ID
Post by: old salt on May 25, 2010, 01:20:45 AM
Can you post a picture to help us?
Title: Re: Help with plant ID
Post by: KHickam on May 25, 2010, 02:20:34 AM
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/531008160_1875975628_0.jpg)

It isn't a very good pic
Title: Re: Help with plant ID
Post by: NAULTRICK1 on May 25, 2010, 08:00:49 AM
 [hmm] Can't really tell from the picture, but it sounds like choke cherry-prunus virginiana-in Cree"takwahimina`na, if you crush the berries is there a fairly hard pit? If not then I'd need a better pic, anyways don't eat until you're sure what it is.
Title: Re: Help with plant ID
Post by: KHickam on May 25, 2010, 11:58:38 AM
Yes, it has a hard pit - and rather large compared to the size of the fruit.
Title: Re: Help with plant ID
Post by: NAULTRICK1 on May 25, 2010, 04:53:06 PM
 dntn Sounds exactly like a choke cherry, good eatin, especially cooked down like a jam with cream and a little sugar, the Cree name means "berry that is crushed"
Title: Re: Help with plant ID
Post by: KHickam on May 25, 2010, 05:10:28 PM
Hopefully this will give more detail for the identification.  It is a short bush perhaps 3 ft tall

(http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/008137.jpg)
Title: Re: Help with plant ID
Post by: NAULTRICK1 on May 25, 2010, 05:37:47 PM
 [hmm] The problem I have is I've never heard of them growing that far south, and the berries are usually purplish to black, but the way Grandma showed me to distinguish was by the pit, lots of pit little flesh, slightly sweet, and when the pit is crunched is slightly bitter, thanks for the question, takes me back a long ways, to treking for medicine with my Grandma. Like any thing that grows wild ya gotta be careful, just as much can do harm as heal, A diffision (tea) made from the leaves is good for colds and the croup, the bark when deconcocted (boiled) aid in stomache ailments, and the roots boiled for the flu. But not being there and being absolutely sure, I don't recommend until you are.
Title: Re: Help with plant ID
Post by: beowulf on May 25, 2010, 06:01:00 PM
look a lot like wild blueberries ! but I`m not sure ,would actually have to see the danged things up close and in person .
Title: Re: Help with plant ID
Post by: DEADDAWG on May 25, 2010, 06:37:59 PM
Get ahold of these folks, they should be able to help you out.  http://www.texasblueberryfestival.com/

I agree with Beowulf, Southern Hibush Blueberry. We had them on Camp Bullis and Medina Base when I was stationed in San Antonio.
Title: Re: Help with plant ID
Post by: Red Badger on May 26, 2010, 04:32:44 AM
Quote from: DEADDAWG on May 25, 2010, 06:37:59 PM
Get ahold of these folks, they should be able to help you out.  http://www.texasblueberryfestival.com/

I agree with Beowulf, Southern Hibush Blueberry. We had them on Camp Bullis and Medina Base when I was stationed in San Antonio.

ARRGh don't remind me of Camp Bullis and Medina base.... I spent enough time there....  srndr

and being a Marine Brat loved every minute of it!  GO AF!
Title: Re: Help with plant ID
Post by: voyageur1688 on May 26, 2010, 11:51:59 PM
 To far south for my knowledge. I be a northern boy but do know that aint no choke cherry.
Voy
Title: Re: Help with plant ID
Post by: NAULTRICK1 on May 27, 2010, 06:01:01 AM
I stand corrected! Didn't think they grew that far south, and the second picture does make em look like blue berries, but I'm use to blue berries growing low to the ground, OH well live and learn
Title: Re: Help with plant ID
Post by: BRIAR on July 15, 2010, 05:21:41 PM
BLUEBERRIES DON'T HAVE PITS THO. IT'S HARD TO MISTAKE A BLUEBERRY IF YOU TASTE IT. THAT IS IF'N YOU EVER HAD HAD ET THEM AFORE.
Title: Re: Help with plant ID
Post by: Ironwood on July 15, 2010, 06:24:41 PM
Lots of Blueberries grown around here. Nacogdoches Texas has a Blueberry Festival every year.  Blue berries don't have pits.  Blueberries have some very small seeds and the fruit grows in more of a cluster.  Is the plant an evergreen? 
Title: Re: Help with plant ID
Post by: KHickam on July 18, 2010, 03:52:02 AM
Ironwood - I don't think so but I am in South Dakota now for a while.
Title: Re: Help with plant ID
Post by: kybackwoodsman on November 19, 2010, 07:42:55 PM
the plant and leaves resemble that of an autumn berry or autumn olive bush, but the berries are just the wrong color, do they turn reddish orange later on??  what ever it is, my mother sure wants a start of it, just cause its different.. shes the plant person.
Title: Re: Help with plant ID
Post by: Razor on November 20, 2010, 03:37:22 AM
The chokecherries I remember as a young'un in northern Minnesota wuz on a tree..not a shrub or bush.
Mostly pit, small clusters of fruit with long stems.  Kinda  Bing cherry color..
We'd stuff our face as full as possible, an' see who could spit seeds fer the longest time.
Seem to recall our face and hands would stay stained fer 'bout 3 days ..
Title: Re: Help with plant ID
Post by: cutshurt on August 07, 2012, 03:19:40 AM
Looks like nanny berry, I dont think you want to eat them, the stems if there strait make fine arrows. Or I may be way off, better get a book  ;D

Darrel