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Title: Plans for my Fire Piston
Post by: fd-ems-emt on July 09, 2008


(http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/my_fire_piston_plans.JPG)

Title: Re: Plans for my Fire Piston
Post by: Ranger on July 09, 2008
That looks WAY to simple to build!  :o

I gotta make one now.

Adam
Title: Re: Plans for my Fire Piston
Post by: Chaffa Hosa on July 09, 2008
Gone to Lowes to get some parts
Where's my wallet
Title: Re: Plans for my Fire Piston
Post by: RoaringBull on July 10, 2008
Here are some plans on power point and a pic.
Title: Re: Plans for my Fire Piston
Post by: fd-ems-emt on July 10, 2008
Nice Job RB,,

I was never any good in mechanical drawing...
Title: Re: Plans for my Fire Piston
Post by: RoaringBull on July 10, 2008
Just something I like to do.......boy am I weird. 

Anytime I can help with stuff like this let me know, I like it.
Title: Re: Plans for my Fire Piston
Post by: fd-ems-emt on July 10, 2008
I just finished ordering some Aluminum  round bar and tubing.

I'm going to make one in medal.
It will be thinner with the same length.


Will post pictures when I done...
Title: Re: Plans for my Fire Piston
Post by: RoaringBull on July 10, 2008
Think I'll try one in wood this weekend
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Post by: Mr Woodchuck on July 11, 2008
Burning Bull ... hey whut happened to de bull's fur ?
He was playing with fire..
Title: Re: Plans for my Fire Piston
Post by: RoaringBull on July 11, 2008
Quote from: Mr Woodchuck on July 11, 2008
Burning Bull ... hey whut happened to de bull's fur ?
He was playing with fire..

(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm282/RoaringBull_photos/Smileys/bomb.gif)
Title: Re: Plans for my Fire Piston
Post by: Beau48 on August 29, 2009
A buddy and I made one tonight, it didnt work.
Due to the parts trouble(o rings), we had to make ours bigger, plunger was 5/8 and used copper tubing.
we used the print as far as making the parts the length shown, we turned a grove in the 5/8 dowel to accept the 5/8 x7/16x1/8 o ring.Used some jute, cotton, even char cloth and none ignited.
I am thinking it was a combination of the increased diameter and the plunger was harder to shove in and get back out than those shown in the videos I have seen.


back to the drawin board (lol)
Title: Re: Plans for my Fire Piston
Post by: Beau48 on August 30, 2009
did find out that we didnt lube the o ring so that didnt help at all,will report back later after trying it again.
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Post by: Hanshi on August 30, 2009
What's a fire piston?  rdfce
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Post by: DandJofAZ on August 30, 2009
It's a mini diesel engine...one stroke to light off your tinder with compression...
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Post by: Micanopy on August 30, 2009
Hows it work?
Title: Re: Plans for my Fire Piston
Post by: shootrj2003 on March 05, 2011
compression of air,prehaps I see a possible deficiency in mine ,I need to change the tip a bit-where the char goes in,Ileft a side slot to facilitate removal of the char perhaps this lowered the compessoin ,I have to change it and sshorten it accordingly.
Title: Re: Plans for my Fire Piston
Post by: ErikPrice1@msn.com on March 06, 2011
 These plans are great. Will give it a go, just looked up some firepistons, they are exspensive to buy.
Title: Re: Plans for my Fire Piston
Post by: shootrj2003 on March 07, 2011
T still get nothing but warm out of mine it seems to have good compresion
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Post by: pathfinder on March 07, 2011
I've seen two of these contraptions in all the years of doing this silly game,and NEVER saw one that worked as advertised. The only fire they encountered was when thrown into one! Can not beat flint and steel.
Title: Re: Plans for my Fire Piston
Post by: flintboomer on March 07, 2011
I know a guy who has the expensive all wood type. I have used and it works, The coal it makes is fairly small but enough to get a fire started. The trick is a bit of char on the tip, a fast snap of the piston, pull it apart and get the little coal onto a bigger piece of char, then start the fire in your nest just like if you had used flint and steel.

The piston costs way too much for me to think about buying one.
Title: Re: Plans for my Fire Piston
Post by: crazell on March 07, 2011
sounds like extra work... flint and steel all the way!!! flwa
Title: Re: Plans for my Fire Piston
Post by: ErikPrice1@msn.com on March 07, 2011
 Flint and steel are for wimps, gas and lighter pnic. Oh you mean for primitive. Yeah flint and steel thmbsup
Title: Re: Plans for my Fire Piston
Post by: shootrj2003 on March 10, 2011
DO NOT confuse that with flint and steel and gasoline!---!!  Read this twice!
Title: Re: Plans for my Fire Piston
Post by: cutshurt on August 06, 2012
I make and sell allot of these, there two things that need to happen for them to work!! that is a proper fit in the bore, both for how long the plunger is, it needs to go all the way to the bottem, and the oring or string when lubed with petroleum jelly or chicken fat, pig fat, needs to seal the bore ,and when hit to make the coal the rod should bounce back up a bit. then you need to move fast to get the rod out before it burns all the oxigen up. my geuss is that your rod is not hitting bottem, the cup in the end of the rod to hold the tinder is to small or to big, to deep, or the gasket is not sealing it well. or not enough lube.
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Darrel
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Post by: freedom475 on August 09, 2012
a lot of wood is too porus and it allows air to escape.....and even a good one will often "blow-out".

I used to make and sell these for a living at trade shows...."Fire From Air" was my pitch and it really amazed a lot of people. I would fire them 5 or 600 times a day. Once you get the hang of it it is awsome. These are so much better than the flint and steel!! And more primative.
Title: Re: Plans for my Fire Piston
Post by: cutshurt on August 10, 2012
if its looseing air from the bottom through the pores, try a few drops of superglue with the piston cleaned and standing upright, that will seal the pores, just dont run it down the sides, leave it for a few days to cure.