Here's a few things I've made recently. I hope that this might give you newer to the Horners craft some idea's on what to do with those lesser quality cow horns and cutoffs! It has always intriged me for use's of horn in Early America lifestyle.
very nice work!
Wow! Beautiful work! I'm in awe of what you folks can do!
All I can say is SWEEEET
Beautiful work!
Wish I was as talented.
Quote from: bull frog on August 10, 2009, 06:59:49 AM
Wish I was as talented.
Me too... I have one horn in the rough that I need to make some time to work on... I have been told to use a rasp and sand paper to get it down where it is smooth then ask for some help.... so when I get to that point I'll ask.... thmbsup
When you make a rum horn or any drinking horn for that matter do you line it in bees wax or anything. The reason I ask is because this. Dose the horn give the liqour a noticible taste? It seemd to me it would but I dont know.
russ,
Yes, the horn taste will be apparent....some horns worse than others. But then again! I have known some fella's that would drink their booze out of an old sweaty tennis shoe! The one thing you want to consider, is the liquid your going to put into it? I don't recommend Beeswax, if your going to put alcoholic beverage in the horn. Alcohol disolves wax or in this case, Beeswax! I recommend BREWERS PITCH or PINE PITCH. IT doesn't disolve with alcohol and is tasteless. TOW and other dealers can provide the Brewers Pitch and Mother Nature can provide Pine Pitch!
Rick
Very nice horns, indeed! I have my eye on a rum horn, are they spoken for?
I have used brewers pitch to line canteens. I Didnt know alcohol would disolve the beeswax
Mouse, Yes all of the items here are still available at this time. Email me for details and price information!
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I use beeswax in my rum horns & have never had an issue with it dissolving. Might be because the rum don't stay in there very long! ROFL
I have made literally hundreds & no one has ever said it was an issue...
Man you do some awesome work.
Man O' Man!!! Thats some shinin stuff there!!!! Have you ever thought of getting into the tattoo business? You definately would draw customers with the quality artistry in those there horns!!!
Quote from: Rev on October 05, 2009, 07:23:49 PM
I use beeswax in my rum horns & have never had an issue with it dissolving. Might be because the rum don't stay in there very long! ROFL
I have made literally hundreds & no one has ever said it was an issue...
Rev, Not to start a pee in the snow contest with you, fncg but what I said about alcohol disolving wax is a fact of nature. Just ask a Dry Cleaner what they use to get candle wax out of wedding table cloths etc. The solution they use is usually alcohol based. If you have ever removed gun stock wax from a stock. What do you use? Alcohol! I haven't made hundreds of Rum Horns, but I am a "Green Horn" and only made a few dozen Rum Horns and 421 powder horns since 1975. I have kept a journal/record since 1975 too! So friend, use your bee's wax and I will still Pine Pitch/Brewers Pitch my alohol storaging horns!
You, sir, have piqued my curiosity. I am headed to the work bench as we speak to start an experiment involving rum & beeswax & the dissolving there of... Results to follow...(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-whacky090.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
I used a small piece of beeswax to hopefully speed up the process...
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At least the bees wax is edible so the rum won't go to waste..
Rev........ way kewl that you're doing this experiment. You've got us all sitting here watching that rum!
Well, it's been a couple days & so far I see no difference. I figure if it goes more than a month or so, I will continue to use beeswax. No way anybody I know is gonna leave perfectly good alcohol alone for more than that!
I want to make it perfectly clear I am not questioning Horner75's expertise on this issue at all. I am certain Pine Pitch/Brewers Pitch is absolutely not only period correct but perfectly suited to it's purpose in this regard. Quite possibly superior to beeswax, but I personally have no experience with using it. I am only trying this experiment to satisfy my own (& some other folks) curiosity & hopefully increase my own knowledge. If & when I find the beeswax to have dissolved, I will then have a good idea as to how long the coating will last & how often it needs to be refreshed. I am also going to follow Horner75's advice & try the Pine Pitch/Brewers Pitch as well, once again to increase my own knowledge. Life is a journey, try to learn something along the way...
Quote from: Rev on October 14, 2009, 08:26:14 PM
I want to make it perfectly clear I am not questioning Horner75's expertise on this issue at all. I am certain Pine Pitch/Brewers Pitch is absolutely not only period correct but perfectly suited to it's purpose in this regard. Quite possibly superior to beeswax, but I personally have no experience with using it. I am only trying this experiment to satisfy my own (& some other folks) curiosity & hopefully increase my own knowledge. If & when I find the beeswax to have dissolved, I will then have a good idea as to how long the coating will last & how often it needs to be refreshed. I am also going to follow Horner75's advice & try the Pine Pitch/Brewers Pitch as well, once again to increase my own knowledge. Life is a journey, try to learn something along the way...
Very well said. I always like to experiment to try to find the best way to do things. :)
Just my 2 cents.... experimentation is a learning tool - where would we be if we did not at times question the information given us as fact? When we discuss issues in a calm and rational way as we are here and then experiment to find the answers we gain personal knowledge of the subject and can speak intelligently about it....
Rev, I remember a horn class I took a few years past, maybe 5 or more by now, time fly's when your getting old, anyway, there is supposed to be a food grade latex out on the market somewhere thats impervious to hot liquids or alcohol, Ill see if I can find the notes from that class and maybe the name of the product, interesting discussion going on here, I for one am very interested of the outcome, please keep us posted, LM
Someone might want to try using paraffin (melted and put on top of jars of jelly and jam) in the same experiment. I believe that it is petroleum based and might be affected by alcohol. Bee's wax would be a different chemical formula. As a diabetic, I wouldn't be able to drink what's left of the rum. More's the pity. I used to love Nelson's blood.
never stop learning ! and always have an open mind ,just so long as it aint so open that your brain falls out ROFL .
I have tried paraffin once in a drinking horn, not used for hard spirits much but a lot of beer and ale passed through it though. Worked fine for a year but shrank and pealed away from the sides when left in the heat. Had to re do it now and then if I let it get too worm and then cool off. Was still usable to drink out of 6 to 8 years later. Finally scraped all the paraffin out and made a powder horn out of it. Don't remember it being a problem for the alcohol that did pass through it.
Rev----- any changes after a week and a half?
Well, the alcohol evaporated. I added more rum. I can see no difference to the wax with my naked eye.
mighty fine work Rick! Gotta git me some horns and dive into it again! thmbsup
Thanks SW, Glad to see your back! Always look forward to seeing your latest finery!
me too Wolf! some fine looking horns ya got over on HT!
I plumb forgot about the experiment! Rev, a dozen days have passed since the last update on the rum and the beeswax, any change, or did you drink all the rum?
Been watchin the experment when all of a sudden, for me anyway, it hit me hdslp that when you (rev.), coat the inside of a horn yer not puttin a chunk of beewax in there. Yer COATING it. slap Been guilty as some others of starin' at the glass fer hours on end hdslp, and haven't noticed a ripple.
Hows about ya try it again, this time, Get a piece of horn (a throw away or chunk of scrap), plug the bottom jest like usual, seal the joint between the plug with beeswax pour in some good high octane as before. Put, hang, place or whatever. Just put sumtin under it so you can tell if it starts ta leak. Notice I said if not when.
I'm tryin ta be neutral here chrrs
yeah, but shouldn't really matter should it? because the beeswax will be surrounded on all sides by the alcohol, instead of against one side of it. Only difference would be the thickness of the beeswax. here's another thought, you'd usually be carrying a rum horn around with the liquid sloshing against the sides, there you'd have agitation. we could get all kinds of experiments going. but i think i'll stick with Rev's.
Good idea! I will do just that tomorrow!