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Firearms => Percussion and Flint Breechloaders...and Revolving Rifle's => Topic started by: Micanopy on July 25, 2009, 11:20:34 PM

Title: H and R Huntsman..........
Post by: Micanopy on July 25, 2009, 11:20:34 PM
I have a .58 cal Harrington and Richardson Huntsman breech loader from many years, more than 35. Can I post about that here?
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Post by: old salt on July 25, 2009, 11:23:59 PM
This is as good a place as any, Go a head and post pic.
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Post by: Ironwood on July 26, 2009, 12:11:30 AM
If I understand corretly the H&R Huntsman is an inline.  Unless the rules have changed we don't discuss inlines at all.
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Title: Re: H and R Huntsman..........
Post by: old salt on July 26, 2009, 04:08:12 AM
Micanopy

MY mistake, did not read the rulles fully
The Old Salt
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Post by: bull frog on July 26, 2009, 08:26:58 AM
Unless I am mistaken, many years ago, H&R produced a half stock carbine styled after their trapdoor springfield carbines.  Used many of the same parts including trigger, trigger guard, buttplate etc., but especially the lock....only changed the hammer to their 1863 percussion hammer style of the older springfield C.W. muskets.  I believe they were .45 cal. as well, and used a musket nipple.  They were very nice little half stock rifles that were very well made...sad to see them go.  Very rare these days...have only seen a very small number at the occasional gun show.  looked alot like a cut-down musket, only in .45 cal.  They had a telescopic brass ramrod held under the barrel with one steel thimble.  Beautiful gun, but for some reason did not seem to sell well...I believe I saw one for sale on Track of the Wolf some time over the last year......thought about it when I saw it, but...(no money).  Does that sound like your rifle?  Not too long after this rifle, H&R came out with their break-open .12 ga. shot gun muzzle loader,much like their break open single shot cartridge shot guns.  This modle also kept the telescoping brass ramrod under the barrel
Title: Re: H and R Huntsman..........
Post by: bull frog on July 26, 2009, 08:33:49 AM
I guess I should have noted here that as I recall it was called a "Huntsman".  I think at the time I didn't get one because I was into "trapdoor Springfields" and although it looked much like one, it was not a 45/70 breech loader.
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Post by: bull frog on July 26, 2009, 08:49:41 AM
Well hell, after all that writing, I just realized what Title ..(breech loaders) I was answearing in.  May have confused it with another model.....still wish I had one!
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Post by: Ironwood on July 26, 2009, 10:41:05 AM
Maybe I'm confused also.  The Huntsman I was referring to is an break action inline.  Micanopy do you have a photo of the rifle? 

At the risk of reaping the wrath of Dryball, AKA Ned Christy, here's a photo of the Huntsman I found in Gun Broker.  I could be in double trouble because this Huntsman has a scope mounted on it. 

Ok everyone.  You can take your hands from over your eyes.. The Bad Bad Evil thing is gone!  ;D
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Post by: Dryball on July 26, 2009, 01:46:57 PM
Oh Gene! And I had such high hopes for you! :-&

Dennis
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Post by: kit_carson on July 26, 2009, 03:11:46 PM
hey um,,,,,,,,i thought this was "no in-lines", you know traditional only.
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Post by: Ironwood on July 26, 2009, 03:24:43 PM
Well we can delete the photo once folks have seen it.  Then everyone can take a deep breath an get over the shock!
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Post by: kit_carson on July 26, 2009, 04:08:38 PM
oh yikes! ROFL ROFL here i thought y'all were going over to the dark side! hdslp
Title: Re: H and R Huntsman..........
Post by: Micanopy on July 26, 2009, 05:36:11 PM
Ok, so its an inline rather than a breech loader. wont mention it again...............
But ya, thats a picture of it, sept no scope.
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Post by: Ironwood on July 26, 2009, 05:50:37 PM
Micanopy,  It's ok.  For something we're not supposed to talk about we sure did a lot of not talking about.  ;D
Title: Re: H and R Huntsman..........
Post by: Red Badger on July 26, 2009, 10:42:09 PM
BLASPHEMY!!!  Hang him from the highest tree we can find....!!!  Micanopy is not at fault he asked first.... but to post a picture.................

I;m sorry I just couldn't resist...... devel devel devel
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Post by: bull frog on July 27, 2009, 05:57:50 AM
I think you are right Gene, I must have been wrong on the modle name....just can't remember what that other gun was called????  It's hell getting old!!!  Now this is going to drive me nuts trying to remember what they called it.  But it was the first of their muzzle loaders to use their telescoping ramrods.  About that time they also produced their 45/70 "officer's model" Trapdoor with the telescoping cleaning rod.  Thanks Gene for refreshing my memory.
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Post by: FrankG on July 28, 2009, 01:51:06 AM
Was that the one they named Buffalo Hunter ????? Or somethin similar??
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Post by: jbullard1 on July 28, 2009, 02:08:08 AM
The Buffalo Classic is the 32 inch barreled 45/70
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Post by: bull frog on July 28, 2009, 07:10:46 AM
As I remember, The 'Buffalo Hunter' was a shortened .58 cal half stock.  Sort of a cut down musket made by Navy Arms.  Had a nice strong wood ramrod and a shorter maybe 24 or 26" barrel.  Almost bought one....should have.   This one was a .45 cal that at first glance would pass as their Trap door 45/70 untill you took a closer look...it was a muzzle loader.  A very beautifully made gun......the name still escapes me.
Title: Re: H and R Huntsman..........
Post by: bull frog on July 29, 2009, 12:02:44 AM
Talked to DB this afternoon, he remembers the gun also but can't remember the name either.  Saw one at a gun show about a year ago for about 299.00 or something like that. It was a real beauty and looked as if it was never shot, or at least very little.  First one I have seen in a good 25 or 30 years, should have grabed it.