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Title: It's up to the site Members
Post by: fd-ems-emt on August 08, 2008, 09:20:15 PM
Ok Guys and Gal's,,

I send a e-mail to Ned earlier and asked for permission to have a contest to give away a used .54 cal. CVA rifle in a contest to some lucky young outdoors man..

I received a e-mail today stating, I should post this posting to get to see what you guy's think about doing it..

If you agree, I can do it.

I will post some rules on the contest and get it going..
I do know I have to follow all local, state and fed laws for shipping and the receiver must be a adult to receive in shipping it....

As some must of read on another  posting,  this will be for any person under 18 to write a 500 word essay on a outdoor experience that have had and it will be judged by the members on the site who will be a winner..

So lets hear you opinion so I can get this going or not..

Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: RoaringBull on August 08, 2008, 09:23:41 PM
Go for it.....
Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: Chaffa Hosa on August 08, 2008, 09:25:59 PM
Tony
I'm all for it as long as everything is OKed by all the entrants parent or guardian
I may even kick in a little plunder myself
Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: R.M. on August 08, 2008, 09:28:20 PM
Yup, go fer it.
I'll throw in some .54 cal balls if you'd like.
Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: RoaringBull on August 08, 2008, 09:30:44 PM
Might put in a little shot pouch....

Might get the parents to sign a release and forward it so that there are no surprised parernts recieving a firearm.....
Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: Mr Woodchuck on August 08, 2008, 09:31:36 PM
gitt r done
Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: fd-ems-emt on August 08, 2008, 09:37:30 PM
Bull , that sound good,,

Will make up a form, having the parent given the ok for the youngster permission to enter..
Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: mongrel on August 08, 2008, 10:39:03 PM
Might state on that form that, since an adult is required to give consent, it's the responsibility of that adult to be sure he/she/it is legally able to receive the gun.

I usually put something to that effect in the descriptions for my gun auctions -- "By bidding on this item you accept responsibility for obeying any local, state, or federal laws that might concern your right to receive and possess it." Something like that. I doubt it would stand up in court but it does remind the person wanting the gun that they're responsible for obeying the laws on their end of the deal.

Not trying to rain on your parade, but hassling a guy who's just trying to do something nice for a lucky kid would be right up the alley of any number of anti-gun mayors, police chiefs, and other officials who buy rolls of toilet paper with the Constitution printed on them. I think what you're doing is a great idea -- just be careful.
Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: karwelis on August 08, 2008, 10:42:31 PM
do it!
Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: tom-h on August 08, 2008, 10:56:34 PM
very  kind of you  do it.
Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: FrankG on August 09, 2008, 12:59:21 AM
It would be great .
Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: Ranger on August 09, 2008, 02:09:57 PM
Very generous! Will the contest be only available to forum members or to anyone, like your local boy scout troop or youth group?
Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: fd-ems-emt on August 09, 2008, 03:16:29 PM
Ranger,,

Would like to keep it to the forum members families.

Sons , grandsons, daughters , grand daughters, nephews / nieces,  boy friends / girl friends kids..

Other wise were going to have Thousand s of entries...
Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: Mr Woodchuck on August 09, 2008, 08:46:59 PM
Marvelous ... excellent  you dee mann Tony
Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: Lady of the Woods on August 11, 2008, 12:08:50 AM
Excellent idea, I look forward to reading the entries. the only question I would pose is how will it be judged fairly by the members? I'm thinking there are several folks who would have strong feelings for one entry over others. Just a question...
zan
Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: fd-ems-emt on August 11, 2008, 12:16:41 AM
Zan,, 

Alll I can say is,  we all have 1 vote.

I would hope that when each of us are voting,
We judge the story fairly and not swayed by who wrote it, But what is writen..

Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: mongrel on August 11, 2008, 12:49:39 AM
The question Zan posed is both honest and realistic. My own take on the answer is this:

This is the first contest of this sort the site is hosting, so to a large extent we have to simply try it and see. If the essays are to be printed and judged on-line they could be posted anonymously, each one numbered and voted for by number. I would like to believe based on the tone of this site so far that even the proudest parents or grandparents wouldn't attempt to bias the other voters by PM'ing or e-mailing, "Johnny's essay is #4...."

I'll be honest, my first reaction to any suggestion like I just made, that people would keep their hands off and let the vote be strictly on merit, is cynical: I've seen too many people I thought were good and decent get down and dirty when it came to "winning" and particularly when some prize of material value was at stake. BUT the reason I've been disappointed enough to become cynical in the first place is because I persist in believing that people will generally do the right thing. If I didn't think that I would probably have given up on decency, myself, a long time ago.

If it turns into a popularity contest then we do something different next time -- or don't bother doing anything at all. One of the things I really like about this site, so far, though, is exactly the lack of "clique" mentality that has shown itself in so many other places and situations. So, again -- let's give it a shot and decide afterward whether or not there was cause for worry.
Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: RoaringBull on August 11, 2008, 02:46:26 AM
Perhaps a points system and average scoring, with the members who have personal knowledge disqualifying themselves.
Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: karwelis on August 11, 2008, 02:52:49 AM
Quote from: Lady of the Woods on August 11, 2008, 12:08:50 AM
Excellent idea, I look forward to reading the entries. the only question I would pose is how will it be judged fairly by the members? I'm thinking there are several folks who would have strong feelings for one entry over others. Just a question...
zan

here's an idea lets see if you like it. i dont know anyone entering this contest. the one kid i knew just wont be able to do it how about using someone like me to read and judge?

karwelis
Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: fd-ems-emt on August 11, 2008, 03:03:18 AM
Well being I have no child entering and giving the ML'er  away.

Do you want me to judge the contest..   

OR

All can PM me the story and I will post it with a number so nobody knows were it came from but me...
Again I will not vote, and just do the posting... 
Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: karwelis on August 11, 2008, 03:09:20 AM
i think the idea of the person judging not knowing any of the kids turning in the essays is purfect

karwelis
Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: fd-ems-emt on August 11, 2008, 03:18:23 AM
I just spoke to my wife, she had a good idea..

We can have 3 people from her Seniors Club be  the judges..

This way there is no chance of any of the kids being known at all..

The 3 she has in mind, 2 are retired teachers and one is a retired bookkeeper..

Two of these people are very into hunting and fishing also..

Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: karwelis on August 11, 2008, 03:40:43 AM
sold! i like it!

karwelis
Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: RoaringBull on August 11, 2008, 09:54:21 AM
sounds excellent to me
Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: Ranger on August 11, 2008, 11:53:16 AM
Good idea, impartiality is best.
Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: R.M. on August 11, 2008, 02:12:11 PM
How can it be leveled out so that an 18 year old doesn't have an advantage over an 8 year old. Just something to think about.
Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: karwelis on August 11, 2008, 02:54:35 PM
i dont think 18 year olds are allowed. its my impression this is for kids
Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: R.M. on August 11, 2008, 02:57:33 PM
Well whatever the age range is, it needs to be balanced somehow.
Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: fd-ems-emt on August 11, 2008, 06:15:55 PM
Were not going to score points on the Essay.
Spelling and grammar is not going to count on picking a winner..
We all have some kind of spelling and grammar program on our computers that should be used..

It will be read, then winner will be pick on the contents of the story...

I don't see a problem with the age thing..

18 years will not be alowed.....



Title: Re: It's up to the site Members
Post by: R.M. on August 11, 2008, 07:00:39 PM
Quotethis will be for any person under 18

That's where I came up with the 18 number. Sorry