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Title: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: Dryball on April 11, 2009
Which is your favorite gun to carry when your just out for a day of roaming the woods, doing some plinking, maybe just goofing off? Why do you choose this one over your others? Mine is my Traditions Crockett .32, mainly cause it's light to carry...both gun and ammo....cheap to shoot, very accurate at closer ranges, and almost as quiet as a .22...just plain relaxin to shoot and tote.

Ned
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Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: old salt on April 11, 2009
I would have to say it is my 62 smooth bore
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: Dryball on April 11, 2009
Why?

Ned
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: kit_carson on April 11, 2009
well this heres the crow killers favorite roaming gun. my ithaca hawkens! she weighs in at just over 11lbs and is .50cal. shes a hard hitting straight shootin problem solver! and yes that a scalp lock tied to the barrel! the first of many.
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm116/keoni121/Ithaca/ithaca003-1.jpg)
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: old salt on April 11, 2009
Ned
I really do not know how to explain why that is the one I grab for a day of wondering through the woods, other than to say it just feels right.
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: Dryball on April 11, 2009
Good nuff...that is the main reason to carry any gun for pleasure. dntn

Ned
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: quigleysharps4570 on April 11, 2009
Would have to be my little .40 caliber flintlock long rifle.
Well balanced and shoots good.  ;)
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Post by: kit_carson on April 11, 2009
Quote from: quigleysharps4570 on April 11, 2009
Would have to be my little .40 caliber flintlock long rifle.
Well balanced and shoots good.  ;)

what no pics?

anyway, ned i wanted to comment, nice little 32 you got there! i guess this means your getting the squirels for dinner on the trek!
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: Dryball on April 11, 2009
As long as you clean and cook em!
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: kit_carson on April 11, 2009
no problem!
im bringin squirel cookers with
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Post by: david32cal on April 11, 2009
gotta be my .32 Dixie,she's a squirrel killin' machine
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Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: Chaffa Hosa on April 11, 2009
Quote from: david32cal on April 11, 2009
gotta be my .32 Dixie,she's a squirrel killin' machine
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u137/david50cal/003-5.jpg)
I must humbly disagree David
Those are the tools of "The Skweril Killin Machine" known as David32cal  thmbsup thmbsup
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: quigleysharps4570 on April 11, 2009
Quote from: crow killer on April 11, 2009
what no pics?

No real good pics crow killer...here's a pic of the lock area.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/quigleysharps4570/Picture003.jpg)

In this pic as you can see it's the bottom rifle.

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Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: Chaffa Hosa on April 11, 2009
Quote from: quigleysharps4570 on April 11, 2009
Quote from: crow killer on April 11, 2009
what no pics?

No real good pics crow killer...here's a pic of the lock area.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/quigleysharps4570/Picture003.jpg)

In this pic as you can see it's the bottom rifle.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/quigleysharps4570/CaptureView256.jpg)

Quigs
If that is the best you can do I'll pay for the shipping of the little 40 to me for proper pictures and range report  chrrs fncg chrrs
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: quigleysharps4570 on April 11, 2009
 ROFL  ROFL  ROFL
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: Chaffa Hosa on April 11, 2009
Quote from: quigleysharps4570 on April 11, 2009
ROFL  ROFL  ROFL

I will,  just send me the shipping quote  thmbsup thmbsup
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: quigleysharps4570 on April 11, 2009
I'll let ya take pics when you come over for the encampment...be easier.  ;D
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Post by: kit_carson on April 11, 2009
Quote from: quigleysharps4570 on April 11, 2009

In this pic as you can see it's the bottom rifle.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/quigleysharps4570/CaptureView256.jpg)

ok i got a question, whats the halfstock in the middle?
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: quigleysharps4570 on April 11, 2009
Crow Killer that one in the middle is the .54 caliber by Pedersoli "Rocky Mountain Hawken".
She's a shooter...likes 90grs. of Goex Cartridge Grade powder with the patched roundball.
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: kit_carson on April 12, 2009
i thought that was the pedersoli! did a little research before i got my Ithaca, and long story short, apparently pedersoli ended up with the "tooling" to build these fine guns. take a good look at mine, there are some small differences, but still looks good! hey could i ask a small favor? take a picture of the mainspring side of the lock.

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm116/keoni121/Ithaca/ckithaca.jpg)
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: quigleysharps4570 on April 12, 2009
Hope this is a good enough picture for you crow killer. Let me know if there is a difference.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/quigleysharps4570/Picture.jpg)
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: kit_carson on April 12, 2009
oh yeah there different, damnit! i was hoping they would be the same in case i need parts some day. and i hate to say it, but it looks like the ithaca lock is made a little better.
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm116/keoni121/Ithaca/ithaca-1.jpg)
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: quigleysharps4570 on April 12, 2009
Well wish they could've been the same.
On the bright side...I'll be able to get parts.  ROFL
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: kit_carson on April 12, 2009
Quote from: quigleysharps4570 on April 12, 2009
Well wish they could've been the same.
On the bright side...I'll be able to get parts.  ROFL

yeah well gee whiz thanx! ROFL ROFL ROFL lets see how yours holds up after 31 years of shooting, and i can make parts blah
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: quigleysharps4570 on April 12, 2009
Well...guess I better get to ordering spare parts.  ;D
I ordered it from Flintlocks, Etc. months before those rifles hit the states mainly because he's a Pedersoli dealer and carries spare parts. Saved me a couple times on my Sharps.
Here's his site if you've never seen it.
http://www.flintlocksetc.com/specials.htm
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: kit_carson on April 12, 2009
yeah ive seen them, he caries some neat stuff.
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: Mouse Driver on May 07, 2009
Favorite roaming gun..
first thing i grab going out the door??
A richland arms 1858 remmington, i have had since i was about 10, (i'm 45 now) have put thousands of rounds through it, got 2 in kit form for christmas, my dad and i finished both, (one brass frame, one steel) the brass frame eventualy got about 1/8 inch of cylunder play front to back so it got relegated to wall hanging duty (young, dumb, and liked big boom) but the steel survives. it has been defarbed (no black powder markings, Just richland arms and 44 cal, and the serial number.

Load 3 chambers with bird shot (for snakes and other fast moving things) and 3 with ball, alternating ball, shot, ball, shot, and place the hammer on a notch in the middle, and stuff it in a holster we made...

have taken 2 deer(1 from 6 feet away, and one from about 20 yds), several hogs, and numerous rabbits and rodents.

replaced 3 hands (or pawls if you will) , 2 bolt stops, and can't count the nipples...

I have always called it American Express (don't leave home with out it).
if we take a trip, it goes, a sunday drive, it goes.. feel naked without it.

Yes i have a 1911 colt series 70, and yes it goes on some trips, but i always reach for the 58 and holster first, always have, always will.

had a .32 T/C before, loved it, and like a fool, sold it. when things got tight one time.
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: Dryball on May 07, 2009
How do you load the shot loads so they stay in position? Always wanted to try shot in my revolvers.
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: Mouse Driver on May 07, 2009
Loads i always use for shot are  a .380 acp shell full of pyrodex P, with a lubed felt wad, covered by a cardboard wad, a .38 spl shell full of shot, (#8 up to #4) covered by 2 more cardboard over shot wads, and a little grease to help retain the over shot wads.

I cut the wads with a punch just like you do patches.

oh, this is for a .44 cal pistol.

tried heaver powder loads, but anything past a .38 super hull tended to blow the pattern.

and with a little practice you can show off and hit clay pigeons (hand tossed abt 10 ft in front of you) and don't tell your friends you are loading shot.

makes for a lot of wow's and how did you do that?

just answer ... practice, pracrice, practice
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: Dryball on May 07, 2009
How thick are the cardboard wads?
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: Mouse Driver on May 08, 2009
over shot wads are corrigated cardboard, not flat stock, about 1/8th inch thick, and slightly oversized for the chambers, the punch i use is a .454 hole punch.

the tension and grease hold the shot column in place

and they are far enough down in the cylinders to not be too effected by the blast of the other shots, never tried just a wad of paper compacted over the shot, may do that tomorrow at the range for grins..

your range is limited with the shot, more range than a .22 rat shot(about 6 ft),  because of the heaver pellets, but only about 10 or 15 ft before the pattern spreads too much to be effective.
try it, start at 6 ft, and just back up 1 yard on every shot until the holes get too big.

i would love to get a few pounds of 10 or 12 shot, would be a heck of a snake load and show off load, kinda hard to mis with that many itty bitty pellets heading at a clay bird.

MD
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: Dryball on May 08, 2009
Thanks MD...gonna try it.

DB
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: Mouse Driver on May 08, 2009
Don't forget the range report!!

I am picking up a 1851 tomorrow morning, with holster& belt rig,  1 Lb of powder, 2 tins of caps, bunch of balls, and all extras..

No real cost to me, did some computer work...

tomorrow is supposed to be pretty, taking it straight to the range..
Range report to follow...
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: Mouse Driver on May 09, 2009
OOPS!!
was told it was a 51,  actualy a brass framed 1860.
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pistol holster, belt, tools, powder, #10 & #11 Caps, 2 sets of nipples (#10 & 11) 95 balls. everything.

just to disinfect his computer from spyware, virus's, and generaly speed things up.

Belt is going up for trade, (wrong size) goes up to abt a 46,

wanted to do a range report, but woke up and it was raining...
gonna have to wait..

Don't know who made it, it is italian by proofs, only marked by cal. .44 Black Powder, nothing else, pulled grips, only marks on frame are the serial number that matches all the other parts, grip is slightly different shaped from pietta 1860, this one has a slight compound curve on back strap just like original 1860, and is slightly thinner front to back when compared to pietta 1860.

Any suggestions??

MD
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: old salt on May 09, 2009
Look under the loading lever some of the makers are putting thier name
there now
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: Mouse Driver on May 09, 2009
nope looked there too, clean as a whistle..

feels really good in the hand  slightly smaller grip, than the pietta. i am getting lo like it, been handling it all day, wish it wasn't ranining...
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: Hanshi on May 20, 2009
Interesting thread.  My favorite roaming piece use to be my little .32 Crockett.  It's a great, accurate & cheap gun to shoot.  Light in weight, too.  But this was before I got my little .36 Southern Mountain rifle.  The barrel is 38" x 3/4".  It's iron mounted with a plain maple stock and has a small Siler flint lock.  The little gun probably weighs less than 6lbs and feels like a toy.  Accuracy?  Phenomenal!   Economical?  You bet!  Still hasn't equaled the Crockett's small game score but give it time. 
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: Micanopy on June 04, 2009
Just for wandering around and general "Shooting for the pot" I'll usually take my .32 Crockett. Enough umph to kill smaller hogs, turkey, sika and fallow doe, squirrels or rabbits. Light enough to tote all day and grave yard dead accurate.
Interestingly enough is the rifle used by traditions to model their own rendition.
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: Hanshi on June 04, 2009
Quote from: Micanopy on June 04, 2009
Just for wandering around and general "Shooting for the pot" I'll usually take my .32 Crockett. Enough umph to kill smaller hogs, turkey, sika and fallow doe, squirrels or rabbits. Light enough to tote all day and grave yard dead accurate.
Interestingly enough is the rifle used by traditions to model their own rendition.

You know, there's a heap of folks that would take a stick to you and me both till we couldn't sit comfortable for a month.  I use my .45 for deer (love it) because where I've hunted the .40 wasn't legal (it may be here during the regular gun season, I'll have to read up carefully).  With the close shots I usually get in the woods my .36 would be a dream. 

I'm tired of reading these yahoos telling that .45 is only suitable for "small" deer and only then if you use conicals & super heavy powder charges and keep your shots under 50 yards.  I'm doubtful some of these guys have ever hunted deer with a prb!  I've killed several deer, one a big buck, with my .22 Hornet usin one shot each.  The .36 equals the muzzle energy of the Hornet and the .32 makes it about 75% of the way to it.  Plus the prb has killing power all out of proportion to its energy figures.  You have a good roaming gun in that Crockett! hntr
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: Micanopy on June 04, 2009
Quote from: hanshi on June 04, 2009
Quote from: Micanopy on June 04, 2009
Just for wandering around and general "Shooting for the pot" I'll usually take my .32 Crockett. Enough umph to kill smaller hogs, turkey, sika and fallow doe, squirrels or rabbits. Light enough to tote all day and grave yard dead accurate.
Interestingly enough is the rifle used by traditions to model their own rendition.

You know, there's a heap of folks that would take a stick to you and me both till we couldn't sit comfortable for a month.  I use my .45 for deer (love it) because where I've hunted the .40 wasn't legal (it may be here during the regular gun season, I'll have to read up carefully).  With the close shots I usually get in the woods my .36 would be a dream. 

I'm tired of reading these yahoos telling that .45 is only suitable for "small" deer and only then if you use conicals & super heavy powder charges and keep your shots under 50 yards.  I'm doubtful some of these guys have ever hunted deer with a prb!  I've killed several deer, one a big buck, with my .22 Hornet usin one shot each.  The .36 equals the muzzle energy of the Hornet and the .32 makes it about 75% of the way to it.  Plus the prb has killing power all out of proportion to its energy figures.  You have a good roaming gun in that Crockett! hntr
I hear it all the time, people saying that anything smaller than a howitzer wont kill anything. There are two reasons for it;
1. They have been told by some many "arm Chair Experts" that this is fact and dont know any better.
or
2. They tried it, cant shoot what they have, and always blame the gun rather than the shooter.
Here in Texas we dont have a minimum caliber in our black powder game laws, just that it has to be a muzzleloader and revol;vers dont count for saome reason. Thats even for game animals. We have exotics that we can use slingshots to kill if we so choose. I'm also told all the time that the best group onhe can hope for out of a fine tuned muzzleloader, especially a sidelock is 5 inches maybe 4 at 100 yards! Thats insane. If someone has that much difficulty touching ball at 100 yards then there is a problem with the shooter, not the rifle.
I am with you on this .32 is super accurate and one well placed shot from a small bore beats a winger hands down with a big bore anytime! thmbsup thanks!
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Post by: williedee on June 06, 2009
Most anything will do for me; just being out there is a real treat now days.
Of course, I'm a little "out there" anyhow.
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: ThunderHeart on June 09, 2009
I reckon my favorite roaming gun  would be my Cva mountain rifle .50 caplock  Because it is the rifle of the three i own i have used the most  I know it will go booom everytime  well least when i dont get in a hurry cause a buck just ran smack dab in front of me and i remember to cock it before i try to kill said buck  buts that a story for another time ....  I am also most confident with this rifle we have become fast friends ..
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: old salt on June 09, 2009
Micanopy
The next time one of those experts [aka Drip under persure] starts telling you
that your smoke poll will not take a deer. That the round that has taken more
deer in the last 50 years is the 22 cal long rifle. That is what a freind of mine
who works for Kansas wildlife and parks told me
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: Micanopy on June 09, 2009
YoKoke brother! Thank you. I hear your words and they are good to my ears. My brothers and I have fought long and hard with many of them that just wont listen or learn. We will become long fast friends and brothers. No nonscense here, Make a man feel at home for doin the manly things. No cowards, and no underwomen running things, I will hunt however I hunt in a clean and true manor. These are my words and I hope all will here.
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: quigleysharps4570 on June 09, 2009
Quote from: Micanopy on June 04, 2009
I hear it all the time, people saying that anything smaller than a howitzer wont kill anything.

I've a little .40 caliber flintlock that could make a liar out of them.  ;)
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: Micanopy on June 09, 2009
.40 has a lot more thump than the so called "Experts" give it credit for.
Title: Re: What's yer fovorite roamin gun?
Post by: skwerly66 on August 13, 2009
My favorite roamin gun was my .45 t/c Seneca.  Killed about everything with it; Deer, Squirrels, Coyote, Armidillo's, Rabbits, Turtles, Crows and 1 Tom Turkey last fall.   Anyway she's now re-tired So my new Fav is gonna be my new Crockett .32.  Her first roaming trip will be saturday mornin for squirrels.

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