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The Making of America => Your Persona => Topic started by: Dryball on March 04, 2009, 12:13:26 AM

Title: Need help forming a persona
Post by: Dryball on March 04, 2009, 12:13:26 AM
I'm mostly Cherokee, have a strong interest in the time period of 1820 through 1840, especially in the western USA, much prefer flintlock rifles and smoothbores to percussion, and grew up in Oklahoma. What should my persona be, how should he act, speak, think, and dress?

Ned
Title: Re: Need help forming a persona
Post by: heatherhistorian on March 04, 2009, 12:40:16 AM
Hi Ned.  First u need to decide if u want to portray a cherokee or someone from the west coast.  I would advise that u go with someon area correct.  You probably can't do Cherokee in California and be correct.  However, that being said, it all depends on how accurate u want to be.
Title: Re: Need help forming a persona
Post by: Roaring Bull on March 04, 2009, 12:42:36 AM
My wife is Cherokee and Apache but portrays a Caddoan due to location at this time.
Title: Re: Need help forming a persona
Post by: Dryball on March 04, 2009, 12:46:13 AM
David, if your wife is part Cherokee, then you and I are related by marriage. All Cherokee's are related in one way or another.

Ned
Title: Re: Need help forming a persona
Post by: Roaring Bull on March 04, 2009, 12:46:52 AM
OK Grandpa! ROFL
Title: Re: Need help forming a persona
Post by: Roaring Bull on March 04, 2009, 12:47:23 AM
I mean Uncle Ned!!  ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL
Title: Re: Need help forming a persona
Post by: Dryball on March 04, 2009, 12:53:14 AM
Behave yourself boy!

Ned
Title: Re: Need help forming a persona
Post by: heatherhistorian on March 04, 2009, 02:41:56 AM
I am not sure right off hand but I will look when I get to work tomorrow.  I use internet from my phone when at home and it limits my capabilities.  LET U KNOW TOMORROW GRANDAD. blah
Title: Re: Need help forming a persona
Post by: Dryball on March 04, 2009, 02:47:35 AM
Heather, I would be honored to be your granddad...but I'm not quite old enough. Maybe your uncle.

Ned
Title: Re: Need help forming a persona
Post by: old salt on March 04, 2009, 09:20:41 AM
Ned
   It is possible that you can get away with portraing  a Cherokee on the west coast, as some for fur companies hired Iroquois for hunter and scouts. There is no historical documentation that I am aware that specifically states any of them made it to California.
   So as Heather said how historically correct do you want to get. In saying that what is to say that a Cherokee could not have been there.

National policy to move Indians west of the Mississippi developed after the Louisiana Territory was purchased from the French in 1803. Whites moving onto these lands pressed the U.S. government to do something about the Indian presence. In 1825 the U.S. government formally adopted a removal policy, which was carried out extensively in the 1830's by Presidents Andrew Jackson and Martin Van Buren. The result was particularly overwhelming for the Indians of the southeastern United States - primarily the Cherokee, Chickasaws, Choctaws, Creeks, and Seminoles - who were finally removed hundreds of miles to a new home.

   Oh Ned I know two youngster  that could call  Grandfather and be right in doing so, They are my grandchildren and are called Little Wolf and Bright Star 
   More information to follow as I find it
Title: Re: Need help forming a persona
Post by: heatherhistorian on March 04, 2009, 12:02:56 PM
Just messing with u Ned.  I know you aren't old enough to be my grandad.  Following Bulls lead.  haha!  I figured since he is related then I must be too...got some of that there Cherokee blood to.
Title: Re: Need help forming a persona
Post by: Dryball on March 04, 2009, 01:53:10 PM
No wonder this forum has taken off and grown so....it's full of Cherokees! dntn

Ned
Title: Re: Need help forming a persona
Post by: heatherhistorian on March 04, 2009, 02:44:19 PM
That has to be it! haha!
Title: Re: Need help forming a persona
Post by: pathfinder on October 05, 2009, 01:25:46 AM
Just ran across this and have to wonder if us Polish Skinners had anything to do with our growth?
Title: Re: Need help forming a persona
Post by: Red Badger on October 05, 2009, 01:28:33 PM
Quote from: pathfinder on October 05, 2009, 01:25:46 AM
Just ran across this and have to wonder if us Polish Skinners had anything to do with our growth?

Pathfinder - of course we did!  Being from Wisconsin Originally my Grandmothers folks were of Polish decent...
Title: Re: Need help forming a persona
Post by: Hawken50 on December 03, 2009, 09:16:29 PM
hey dryball.i know this is an older post .but i just got here.dont be upset about being called gradfather.with the indians that  was a term reserved for someone they had the upmost respect for...I myself have cherokee ancestors on both sides.but my wife thinks its apache,,beard is only a patch here and a patch there!!!who ever heard of a mountian man with no beard..guess my persona will have to be as a longhunter...guess ill have to trade in my hawken for a flint longrifle.....wait an excuse for another frontstuffer,,,gotta think...
Title: Re: Need help forming a persona
Post by: Watauga on December 03, 2009, 11:56:31 PM
Long Hunters had fun to!
And looking down a 3ft+ Rifle barrel is a cool perspective! thmbsup 
I have a ancestor that was a Long-hunter and had 2 Cherokee wives that were sisters. [hmm]
He kept his white wife too! (Things happen when you are in the woods for a year at a time devel)
And of course that put some Cherokee in our family tree to!
Title: Re: Need help forming a persona
Post by: Dryball on December 04, 2009, 12:11:32 AM
Reckin we be cousins then you two. Glad to increase the family!

DB
Title: Re: Need help forming a persona
Post by: Hawken50 on December 04, 2009, 12:43:03 AM
 hntr Anybody who can git in a fight with a couger and win...im proud to call cousin.
Title: Re: Need help forming a persona
Post by: Watauga on December 04, 2009, 02:54:09 AM
I wonder how the Cherokee ancestors would say "Sleeps with Cougars" [hmm]
Title: Re: Need help forming a persona
Post by: Dryball on December 04, 2009, 03:20:36 AM
Somewhat like this "tsi-li-hu guh doe dee tlv-da-tsi"...means sleeping with lion...closest you can get in Cherokee.
Title: Re: Need help forming a persona
Post by: Hawken50 on December 04, 2009, 03:35:44 AM
 flwa close enough....i swear yall done got me studing like i was back in school.Been on the web all evening researching everything from local indian tribes to longhunters,to pirates!!!! Dont even wont to cut the tv on...i think im hooked bad.Dont know where the pirate thing came from??? lol
Title: Re: Need help forming a persona
Post by: Dryball on December 04, 2009, 03:46:03 AM
Studying is good for you...builds up your thinking ability...gives some GREAT headaches as well. ROFL Yup, yor hooked...we done it...hahahahaha!

DB
Title: Re: Need help forming a persona
Post by: Hawken50 on December 04, 2009, 03:51:11 AM
 ROFL Thats allright.ill just bug yall more.lol
Title: Re: Need help forming a persona
Post by: Dryball on December 04, 2009, 04:02:50 AM
Bug away cousin. That's a real compliment to the forum...means it's doin it's job.

Dennis