Traditional Muzzleloading on the Cheap

Forum Functions => Suggestion Box => Topic started by: windwalker_au on July 21, 2008, 05:47:22 AM

Title: pree flintlock
Post by: windwalker_au on July 21, 2008, 05:47:22 AM
dont you think we should have a pree flintlock for our wick burners lol.
bernie :)
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: Ranger on July 21, 2008, 11:38:56 AM
That probly wouldn't be a bad idea. I know I'd like to have a match lock and a snaphaunce! (http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/laffingman67/hmm.gif)
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: tom-h on July 21, 2008, 12:59:21 PM
i vote yes how many matchlock fellows we have here ?---here is a picture of my 75cal smooth bore built by frank Greek ,our own  board member-frank made all the furniture by hand even the lock itself-and shaped the stock from a big chunk of walnut the bbl is 36"oct-rnd and it has super  fast ignition and has superb accurecy(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f26/1057/100_2895.jpg)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f26/1057/100_2897.jpg)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f26/1057/100_2898.jpg)
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: FrankG on July 21, 2008, 03:48:20 PM
That'd be cool !
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: Chaffa Hosa on July 21, 2008, 04:15:35 PM
I see where it can work because after LongShanks, Lady Murron and Princess Isabella are finished I may try one of the wicklocks
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: tom-h on July 21, 2008, 04:27:35 PM
cool i think you would really ;D like one after you shot it a couple of times i love mine and the lock  ignition is very fast   and no flints or caps to worry about just some cotton rope and and a little salt-peter  will make a months supply
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: FrankG on July 21, 2008, 05:04:21 PM
tom , where do ya find the cotton rope? the stuff here has a poly core .
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: tom-h on July 21, 2008, 06:02:36 PM
i buy my match from Dixie they sell it by the yard cheaper than you can make it  that is why i buy it ,i cant find any pure cotton rope i did make some from e hemp twine from hobby lobby and it worked but it was hard to keep the hot cone http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?products_id=1665
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: FrankG on July 21, 2008, 06:34:59 PM
Thanks Tom !!
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: Dryball on July 21, 2008, 11:48:02 PM
One question, can the proposed board fit in with muzzleloading on the cheap? If so, you've got it!

Ned Christy
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: mongrel on July 22, 2008, 12:15:55 AM
Quote from: Ned Christy on July 21, 2008, 11:48:02 PM
One question, can the proposed board fit in with muzzleloading on the cheap? If so, you've got it!

Ned Christy

In reference to just matchlocks, the answer to your question is, absolutely. They can be built around the same barrels as any other muzzleloader, starting with salvaged single-shot shotgun barrels and continuing up through relatively expensive octagon-to-round tubes. Where they're definitely economical is, there are few if any commercially-available parts to construct either locks or stocks -- it's essentially a handmade proposition. That and the fact that most variations of the locks are very simple to construct make these types of firearms very definitely "cheapies" to produce.

Snaphances and miquelets (a Spanish design with the mainspring located on the outside of the lockplate) are variations, you might even say prototypes, of the flintlock. Again, unless one is willing to deal with a select few (expensive) parts sources such as The Rifle Shoppe (through Track Of The Wolf), you're pretty much talking about handmade items. As for wheellocks -- anyone masochistic enough to attempt one of those not only has my respect and pity, but is thinking so far outside the box that normal questions of cost don't apply.

So, yes, to the same degree that the flinters and caplocks seen on this forum fit into its basic context, so would the earlier types of firearms.
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: RoaringBull on July 22, 2008, 01:03:31 AM
Yeah....what he said.
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: Dryball on July 22, 2008, 01:09:02 AM
Look down below Smoothbores, you have your new board. Enjoy,

Ned Christy
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: Ranger on July 22, 2008, 11:37:42 AM
Thanks Ned!
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: Mr Woodchuck on July 22, 2008, 12:51:42 PM
Thanks Ned ... 
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: tom-h on July 22, 2008, 03:04:22 PM
thanks mr.christy  it is a pleasure to be a member of a forum that  is actually member oriented and has a staff that is behind us.
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: RoaringBull on July 22, 2008, 04:35:48 PM
Thanks, Mr Ned , you da Man!
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: Chaffa Hosa on July 22, 2008, 04:37:20 PM
Yep he did good except for now I GOT TO HAVE ONE OF THEM THINGS  :D
Oh well it aint nothing but money and time
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: RoaringBull on July 22, 2008, 04:39:50 PM
two thangs I ain't got none of!!     lol
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: DandJofAZ on December 09, 2008, 04:55:58 PM
Cotton rope.  I've got plenty, but it's all 3/4 inch.  Take quite a lock to work with it.
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: old salt on December 09, 2008, 07:09:11 PM
I like to make my own match cord as it continues the learning process.
I use hemp that I soak in salt peter that get from the local drug store. The hemp cord I get from Turkey Foot Trading. You can get it by the foot or by the spool.  You can get in sizes from 4 to 12 mm I like the 6mm my self. 
For those of you who want try to make your own
The site is http://www.turkeyfootllc.com
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: tom hargrove on January 09, 2009, 05:10:52 PM
you are so right  i tried  the hemp cord  and it does seem to work much better than cotton .seems the fire cone stays hotter and less ash and will keep a nice point . chrrs
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: FrankG on January 09, 2009, 05:12:21 PM
Is it twisted or braided ?
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: old salt on January 09, 2009, 08:09:23 PM
The hamp that I get is twisted
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: FrankG on January 10, 2009, 03:19:54 AM
Does it hold together good while burning?
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: tom hargrove on January 10, 2009, 03:55:13 AM
i got some off e-bay and it works real well  it is  like a  a regular rope
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: Ironwood on January 11, 2009, 03:01:56 AM
I noticed in the Crafts Department at Wal-Mart there's two different balls of Hemp.  As far as I can remember it was twisted.  I'm not sure what the diameter was but it was fairly large 1/4" or 5/16" maybe.
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: FrankG on January 11, 2009, 03:15:03 AM
Thanks Gene, I'll check out wally's next time I'm in there .
Title: Re: pree flintlock
Post by: old salt on January 11, 2009, 05:00:25 AM
What wally world has here is for macrame and is not twisted very tight, if you think it is a tight twist make sure
it is not treated