Anybody know how to remove the breech plug from a Pedersoli pistol ( I think it's a Kentucky pistol ). I went to wipe the bore with the ramrod that came with the pistol and now I have a patch and ramrod stuck. Any help would be appreciated.
I'm no gunsmith but I've had that happen and just took out the nipple, filled the area under the nipple with 3F powder, screwed the nipple back in and shot it out.
If it's a flintlock, remove the vent liner and do the same.
Aim at a soft backstop like a hay bale so that you can retrieve the ramrod in good condition.
I thought about doing that but decided against it. I don't want to jeopardize this one in any way. I was told a trade secret. I won't divulge the source but I will tell you how to do it.
Remove nipple
replace with grease zerk
attach grease gun and pump.
Best of all it really works, out came the ram rod nice and easy.
btw, thanks for the idea.
I'm glad you got it taken care of.
Quote from: rdstrain49 on November 12, 2016, 02:30:24 AM
I thought about doing that but decided against it. I don't want to jeopardize this one in any way. I was told a trade secret. I won't divulge the source but I will tell you how to do it.
Remove nipple
replace with grease zerk
attach grease gun and pump.
Best of all it really works, out came the ram rod nice and easy.
btw, thanks for the idea.
that "secret" is`nt exactly secret and ,yep it does work dntn
Agree that the grease gun works but what a mess to clean up!!!!
Mark
Often. just squirting some slippery water down bore to soak the patch good is all it takes... then pull it out...
Doug
Quote from: Papa on November 12, 2016, 04:54:13 PM
Agree that the grease gun works but what a mess to clean up!!!!
Mark
I agree.
fwiw on the matter of trad ml breech plugs, and in my experience and opinions ...
there are essentially two kinds, the offshore patent and the classic onshore flat faced.
the offshore (italy, spain, belgium, india, etc & god-knows-where-else) these types fall into two categories - those that can be removed by a competent tech with proper tooling, and those that were never meant to be removed safely by anyone with any tooling. with new and never fired guns, using proper tools, i can easily remove all investarms breech plugs, some of the pedersoli plugs, and none of the traditions or cva plugs.
onshore plugs in new unfired guns are easy.
all guns that have not had components (breech plugs, vents, bolsters, clean out screws, nipples) screwed into their barrels with their threads anti-seize lubed *might* be near impossible to unscrew due to the corrosive effects of accumulated black powder residue that will enter into the threads of these attached barrel components ... can't stress cleaning yer guns thoroughly and as soon as possible after firing.
all bets are off for removing plugs, and not marring or scratching the metal, or even twisting or breaking metal, using pipe wrenches, vise grips or other such firearm torture tools. one requires the proper tools. for offshore plugs, i use a special "socket" that fits well on an ante-chamber flint or percussion breech, and a large 18" reed rcorp flat jawed wrench (with a 3' length of 2" black pipe for wrench leverage). for onshore plug removal i use a rice barrel company socket that is used in conjunction with a 3' length of 3/4" black pipe for leverage. in both instances the barrel is held in a special set of rice barrel company octagonal pads that magnetically stick on the jaws of a large, well attached shop vise.
hope some of this has helped someone.
Quote from: DandJofAZ on November 14, 2016, 06:27:07 AM
Often. just squirting some slippery water down bore to soak the patch good is all it takes... then pull it out...
Doug
Along those lines I once had a similar problem with a rifle. I squirted water down the bore but still couldn't get the rod out. By the time I got in touch with my "tool equipped" friend and he got the breech plug out, there was already noticeable pitting in the breech. The rest of the bore was fine and I was able to clean up the breech pretty darn good. If this sort of thing happens again I'll blow it out with a powder charge.
Hanshi, I just used synthetic grease that I use on my skid steer, clean up was easy with a couple of patches and some really hot water. Not mush worse than a normal cleaning.