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Title: 58 Remington with extra cylinder
Post by: William on March 14, 2016, 05:06:05 AM
http://www.cabelas.com/product/shooting/firearms/black-powder-firearms/black-powder-revolvers%7C/pc/104792580/c/553829580/sc/571854780/i/567338580/pietta-model-1858-new-army-44-caliber-black-powder-revolver-with-spare-cylinder/1776982.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fblack-powder-revolvers%2F_%2FN-1115735%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_567338580

Pietta 1858 Revolver with extra cylinder at Cabelas $249.99 with free shipping (anything over $99)

That is a good deal in my book.
Title: Re: 58 Remington with extra cylinder
Post by: drago9900 on March 21, 2016, 01:17:41 AM
I wish it was a .36, I have been thinking about one of those.
Title: Re: 58 Remington with extra cylinder
Post by: William on March 21, 2016, 03:23:51 AM
I picked up the last one on the shelf yesterday at the Buda, TX location.  I probably wouldn't have considered it had it not been for the extra cylinder and on sale.  Plus my fiancĂ© just had to get me something for my birthday which was last week; so...... ;D
Title: Re: 58 Remington with extra cylinder
Post by: Patocazador on March 21, 2016, 05:05:32 PM
That is a good deal for a '58 with 2 cylinders.
Title: Re: 58 Remington with extra cylinder
Post by: William on March 21, 2016, 10:35:19 PM
I thought so.  Now the free shipping on anything over $99 is over but it's $5 shipping for the time being.  Anyway, I've owned 6 Remingtons over the years so I'm fairly familiar with the inner workings.  This one is stiff but timing is perfect, something kind of rare right out of the box.  The loading rammer is stiff about halfway down so it may need to be gently polished or filed.  Or possibly the pivot screw is too tight, we'll see.  First I've got to duck the entire thing in alcohol the remove the thick coat of shipping oil they sprayed it with before it left Italy.
Title: Re: 58 Remington with extra cylinder
Post by: Watauga on March 22, 2016, 01:24:36 AM
William, This is also  [conf]  is an awesome deal or a misprint???
Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44

http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=1716347&destination=/catalog/browse/black-powder-revolvers/_/N-1115735/Ns-CATEGORY_SEQ_567338580
Title: Re: 58 Remington with extra cylinder
Post by: William on March 22, 2016, 02:19:16 AM
Well,  not a misprint but maybe not the best deal.  Keep in mind this is the brass frame Confederate model and a replica of Colt ' s early designs.  Brass with no top strap means that you must back off on powder charges or quickly make it into a paperweight.  Now,  all that also depends on use;  mild plinking loads and paper punching,  a first cap and the ball revolver or full blown CAS matches every Saturday?
It is a great deal for some but a waste of money for others.  My final thought is historical correctness and the use of brass for a revolver frame.  From what I've read, the brass framed Remington 1858, which should really be called the 1862 as that is when it was actually produced,  probably never existed until the 20th century.  Again,  most of what I've read says it didn't exist during the war between the states with very little saying it did. If you're going for PC then  buy steel.
If you are looking for full blown  CAS guns then get the SS forged frame Uberti models, learn from my experience.
Title: Re: 58 Remington with extra cylinder
Post by: bubba.50 on March 22, 2016, 02:37:49 AM
if you want it for a full on shooter, I agree, get the steel frame. but if you want it to be more "Confederate Correct" it looks like a good deal. don't really know how useful the extra cylinder would be though, seein' as you'd hafta take the gun apart every time ya want to use it.
Title: Re: 58 Remington with extra cylinder
Post by: hotfxr on March 22, 2016, 03:52:02 AM
Quote from: Watauga on March 22, 2016, 01:24:36 AM
William, This is also  [conf]  is an awesome deal or a misprint???
Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44

http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=1716347&destination=/catalog/browse/black-powder-revolvers/_/N-1115735/Ns-CATEGORY_SEQ_567338580

I got one of those a couple of years ago, in .36, with the extra cylinder. It has worked fine for a little as I have used it. With the 1851 Colt design you wind up taking it apart for reloading anyways. It's easier than trying to load it through the reliefs in the frame, even using a stand. It's as simple as knocking the wedge pin back and pulling the barrel off and the cylinder falls off. Some of the guys around here that shoot them usually have 6 or more loaded cylinders with them for the shoots.
Title: Re: 58 Remington with extra cylinder
Post by: Patocazador on March 22, 2016, 05:35:30 PM
No matter how slow it is to replace a cylinder, it's faster than reloading the same one.
Title: Re: 58 Remington with extra cylinder
Post by: Red Badger on March 27, 2016, 06:44:01 PM
Quote from: Patocazador on March 22, 2016, 05:35:30 PM
No matter how slow it is to replace a cylinder, it's faster than reloading the same one.

US Calvary officers were issued 2 cylinders from what I have been told... Not fact just hearsay