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Title: Making ball bags, stopper size?
Post by: sumoj275 on October 13, 2013, 06:03:47 AM
hello there
Plan on making some ball bags but I am not sure what size the stoppers should be for them.  I will be making them for my .45, 50, 54, and 62 cal.  Do you guys know what is the best way to go about it?  Should I make the spout a but bigger for the caliber?
Thanks
Title: Re: Making ball bags, stopper size?
Post by: Red Badger on October 14, 2013, 11:41:27 AM
When I make a new bag I form the sout about 5 mm larger than the diamater of the ball I use... I make a wooden dowel to size and form the spout around it... then make the stopper out of that dowel....
Title: Re: Making ball bags, stopper size?
Post by: tallbear on October 15, 2013, 06:55:28 PM
Traditionally the stoppers on probably 90-95% of original ball bags are of what are known as a clothespin style stopper.The reason for this is that the balls rolling around in the bag won't drive out the stopper.The hole size should be slightly over the ball size.I make the shaft of the stopper .300 under the hole size and the end of the closes pins style stopper .100 over the hole size.Here are some pics,you can see how the stopper locks in the back of the spout.

Mitch Yates
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n166/jmyates/Shot-ball%20bags/IMG_4786_zpsd8ebe386.jpg)

(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n166/jmyates/Shot-ball%20bags/IMG_4755_zps3a74e032.jpg)
Title: Re: Making ball bags, stopper size?
Post by: sumoj275 on October 16, 2013, 04:33:55 AM
Thank you so much!
Title: Re: Making ball bags, stopper size?
Post by: c-wiseman on October 16, 2013, 09:46:18 PM
Tallbear, that dark colored rough spot at the beginning of the split in the stopper (just below the middle fringe in the picture), is that a wedge of some kind to help spread the stopper end apart?

chris
Title: Re: Making ball bags, stopper size?
Post by: tallbear on October 16, 2013, 11:14:35 PM
Chris
I think that must be a piece of fuzz from the piece of wool blanket that I use to apply wax with.Once the stopper is finished with spar varnish I wax them to ease their function.

I have seen originals with a piece glued in like that to increase tension as the plugs got older and worn.

Mitch
Title: Re: Making ball bags, stopper size?
Post by: c-wiseman on October 17, 2013, 05:38:41 PM
Thanks for the info Tallbear

Chris
Title: Re: Making ball bags, stopper size?
Post by: sumoj275 on October 26, 2013, 07:20:31 PM
Thanks again Tall Bear
Title: Re: Making ball bags, stopper size?
Post by: bull frog on October 27, 2013, 03:18:09 AM
Great looking spout and stoppers.
Title: Re: Making ball bags, stopper size?
Post by: tallbear on October 31, 2013, 03:14:12 PM
Glad to help!!!!

Mitch Yates