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Title: Navy Arms sidehammer and other goodies
Post by: mongrel on August 13, 2012
I'm not selling this and can't post pictures, but the GunBroker link has plenty of pictures. What's for sale is a .32 caliber Navy Arms sidehammer, which I believe was known as their Country Boy model. I don't know what the seller's reserve price is but this one might be well-worth bidding on -- you just don't see these guns much any more.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=301061455

Same seller -- not much money left over after a truck repair bill, or I'd buy this stuff myself. Someone ought to snag these things!

What I'm fairly sure based on the measurements and photos is a T/C (but might be Investarms) flint breechplug and tang, $30 starting bid price.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=302034134
What I'm guessing to be a 36" barrel, definitely 13/16" or a hair less and by the seller's measurement a .36 caliber, inlet along with a nice spearpoint tang into a stock blank -- can't tell the wood type, probably light walnut or scuzzy-from-sitting maple. $150 starting bid price.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=302083820

Several of the seller's other auctions are well-worth looking at -- a CVA Mountain Rifle barrel (the one described as an "Ardesa"), an Investarms .54 caliber barrel that will fit the rifles such as the various Hawkens, the Lyman Trade Rifle, and others of that general type and size, and various other items that might be just what someone is looking for.

I've bought a few items from this seller and been completely happy. I'm not trying to shill for the guy but so far as I can tell his dad accumulated some good-quality stuff before he passed and the prices on everything range from fair to pretty darned good -- right in keeping with the "on the cheap" theme of this site.
Title: Re: Navy Arms Country Boy sidehammer
Post by: bubba.50 on August 14, 2012
is that model the one that is sometimes called a mule-ear lock?
Title: Re: Navy Arms Country Boy sidehammer
Post by: mongrel on August 14, 2012
Yep, that would be the one.
Title: Re: Navy Arms Country Boy sidehammer
Post by: silverfox on August 14, 2012
       I sold one in like new condition about 3 months ago for $300.   Then it came back to haunt me at matches under 50 yds. Be aware they are small guns not  much larger than the old Daisy BB guns.          Fox
Title: Re: Navy Arms Country Boy sidehammer
Post by: gordy on August 14, 2012
             It seems that they don,t appeal to most people. Like the underhammer , they just don,t look traditional . A few years back I nearly bought one just to try it. That one looks to be in great shape except for a few odds and ends.
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Title: Re: Navy Arms Country Boy sidehammer
Post by: mongrel on August 15, 2012
Regardless of what they look like, 1000 Jenks sidehammer rifles were made on contract to the U.S. Navy in 1841, with an additional amount of over 4000 carbines made on Naval contract between 1843 and 1846. That's several times the estimated number of big-bore Hawkens made for the western trade, replicas of which are today considered by a lot of purists to be one of the Holy Grails of historically correct firearms.
Title: Re: Navy Arms Country Boy sidehammer
Post by: beowulf on August 15, 2012
side hammers and underhammers are both pc ! in fact there were underhammer flintlocks ! been some strange things over the years when it comes to fire arms ! dntn
Title: Re: Navy Arms Country Boy sidehammer
Post by: pathfinder on August 15, 2012
My first wife had a .36 cal Navy Arm's Mule ear that she shot VERY well. The barrel had such a bend in it,that you could put your finger under it when it was on a table. Shot 1 hole groups at 50yd's! Front sight WAY over to the right,Rear sight WAY over to the left! Darndest thing!
Title: Re: Navy Arms Country Boy sidehammer
Post by: gordy on August 17, 2012
         I didn,t mean to give the impression that I wasn,t aware that they were  Traditiomal .  hdslp
The mule ear and the under hammer were both well suited to military use .  thmbsup
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