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Title: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: FrankG on September 26, 2008
Well spent some time cleanin up from the last three builds today , whew, I ended up with a whole feedsack full of shavins and wood chips ! Revamped my vise set up to work a little better I hope .

After I get finished cleaning the bench I'm going to get started on my 32 flinter and thought I'd take a lot of pics and share with everyone my 'Hayseed School of Smithin' way that I've been doin things . Some are a little unorthodox compaired to others methods but they work for me the way I was 'home schooled' without supervision lol !!

I aint a professional nor have I ever slept at a Holiday Inn  ! lol lol  ;D

The stock is a curly maple blank I've had for 25 yrs or better that I salvaged from a mess up when I tried to use a duplicator that wasnt designed for long stocks 20 yrs back. I was able to salvage this for a skinny build so am glad I didnt throw it in the wood stove !The duplicator is residing in the shed !

The barrel is a used Dixie Tenn. barrel I bought off another board and has an excellent bore .

Lock is a Barnett waterproof pan type that i've had for some time also , actually had the forsight to buy several when TOW had them years ago . They are a snappy little lock and well made , too bad they dont have them any longer.

I got a little jump start on it awhile back and inlet the barrel and ramrod with basic shape cut out so we will go from there . I made a post in the patterns section of the procedure I use now that is easier than my past methods.

Heres a link to the post mentioned :
http://traditionalmuzzleloadingcheap.com/forum/index.php?topic=733.0
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roaring Bull on September 27, 2008
Can't wait to see it......thinking real hard on gettng a .32 now
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roaring Bull on September 27, 2008
...............................you know, so kids can shoot it ::) ;D
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roy on September 28, 2008
well where's the pics????  ;D
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Ranger on September 30, 2008
Frank was just teasin us!  ;D
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Chaffa Hosa on September 30, 2008
Quote from: Ranger on September 30, 2008
Frank was just teasin us!  ;D

I think he is worried about deer season right now  ::)
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roy on September 30, 2008
Worried??  LOL  He shouldn't be worried  ;D


I think he may have a case of the don't wannas though....  ;)
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Chaffa Hosa on September 30, 2008
Roy
Are you saying our Frank has a case of the L.A.S. ?
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roy on September 30, 2008
could...
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: FrankG on September 30, 2008
Wholly Crow , whats this ? I was just out for a bit tryin ta clean up some mess so's I could start a new one. ;D Prolly be another day afor y'all git to poke fun at the "Hayseed Smithin Institute " lol lol !!!  ;D
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: FrankG on September 30, 2008
Well ya coaxed me  ;D.........


Heres the mess I have to contend with before I start makin a new one. Have to get the tools put back so I can find them :)
I just finished swapping out my machinest vise for the 10" woodworking vise and added a couple supports on the left and right sides of it 24" from it for supporting the stock. I stole the idea from Roy  ;D
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b74/ModocWrangler/scratchbld/scrtchbld005.jpg)

Heres the salvaged blank from the mess up with the roto carve duplicator I mentioned above. It took some plannin and whittlin but I think i made it with this skinny little barrel inlet into it .
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b74/ModocWrangler/scratchbld/scrtchbld001.jpg)

Heres the shot of the forestock after bandsawing the oops away.
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b74/ModocWrangler/scratchbld/scrtchbld002.jpg)

The forestock petered out and was too thin because of the 'wow' the duplicator made and I had to cut the stock back and add a hunk so I used a hunk of walnut for grins. When I pull the barrel out I'm going to cut some grooves inside the channel on the 45deg flats that overlap the walnut and maple to epoxy in some threaded screw stock for strength on the tip.
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b74/ModocWrangler/scratchbld/scrtchbld003.jpg)

Here is a shot of the ramrod groove after its hogged out with chisels and scrapers. It still needs a bit of sanding with dowel wrapped in sandpaper.
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b74/ModocWrangler/scratchbld/scrtchbld004.jpg)

Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roy on September 30, 2008
you call that a mess  ???  man you haven't seen my shop LOL.    'bout time for them pics LOL.  ;D
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: FrankG on September 30, 2008
This is after shovlin the chips and shavins and then sweepin it out . Most likely a whole nuther stock in chips and shavins in that sack   ;D !

Wont be any progress other than cleanin up till after I've made meat   ;D
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roy on September 30, 2008
Then you can come down and work on my shop... right??  ::) ::) ::) ;D
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: FrankG on September 30, 2008
You bet ......you split the air fare . I'll be right there ! ;D
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roy on September 30, 2008
Sure... if you get half mine next year...  ;D
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: FrankG on September 30, 2008
After the market crash yesterday we might  only be able to afford biscuits and beans afore long   :o
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roy on October 19, 2008
Any more work done?? Gees.... I thought I was the slacker!  :P ;D
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: FrankG on October 19, 2008
I've walked by the shop a few times  ;D Haulin hunks of deer in to cut up and a couple more puttin stuff up gettin ready for winter  ;D Does that count amigo ???  ;D
Hey did you do any good huntin ?
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roy on October 19, 2008
decent  :)
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roy on October 26, 2008
Dust is collectin... not wood dust either  :P ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Ranger on October 29, 2008
I believe he's callin you out, Frank!  ;D
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roy on October 30, 2008
Wheres Frank??   ??? ::)
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: FrankG on October 30, 2008
Went AWOL yesterday  ;D ;D Had to do some domestic chores today . 15 heads of cabbage had to get taken care of , ya know the clean up , whackin up , blanchin , coolin and freezin . I do like my fried cabbage and bacon or polish sausage  ;D

Then  it looked like rain so I had to round up a tarp for my excess wood pile that wont fit in wood shed thats all split and stacked. Cant have it gettin all wet after its all dry and cured just right  ;D

All most lookin forward to bad weather so all I have to do is go play in shop and listen to tunes !!  ;D

Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roy on October 31, 2008
Well that is better than a sharp stick in the eye LOL  you should see the guns that I am working on...  ;D
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roaring Bull on October 31, 2008
Quote from: Roy on October 31, 2008
Well that is better than a sharp stick in the eye LOL  you should see the guns that I am working on...  ;D

OK, let's see them...........
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Chaffa Hosa on October 31, 2008
Quote from: Roy on October 31, 2008
Well that is better than a sharp stick in the eye LOL  you should see the guns that I am working on...  ;D

Roy I'm sure its OK for you to post some of your work

And besides,  it will probably help the economy

with all the new keyboards we will have to buy  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roaring Bull on October 31, 2008
terry cloth bath towels make really good bibs!
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: FrankG on October 31, 2008
Well Roy ........you gonna just keep teasin ...... like ya did with mine ? You could give a quick glimse of what yer up to  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roaring Bull on October 31, 2008
please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Ranger on October 31, 2008
Now it looks like they ae calling YOU out!  Roy :D
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roy on October 31, 2008
Quote from: Sir Roaring Bull on October 31, 2008
please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please

LOL  Boy don't check in all day and see what happens..  ;D   I should have one all back together on Monday/ Tuesdayish and have started 3 more... I will see what I can do for pics.  We had a bit of cool weather and it has really slowed down the drying time of the finish. 
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roy on December 04, 2008
Hey Frank!!!  Your bench just called... was wonderin if I would give it a new home...  ROFL blah
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roy on December 04, 2008
Said something about bringing some tools with too  ??? ???
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: FrankG on December 04, 2008
Tell ya what ....you can come on out and stir the dust in it any time  thmbsup I even have a Baker tent I'll set up for ya  ROFL I nice little stove for it and a cot .....you'd feel right ta home  dntn
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roy on December 04, 2008
I'll have to take ya up on that...  Next year near huntin time....  ;D 
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: FrankG on December 04, 2008
Sounds good to me ! Ya gonna hang around for first season elk in mid Oct. ? Its high power no draw for tags , ya just buy one and go out . And you can pack a front stuffer instead of CF. !
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roy on December 04, 2008
I don't have an elk gun... yet LOL. 
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: FrankG on December 04, 2008
That would give you sumtin to do betwixt archery deer and elk season lol lol !!
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Chaffa Hosa on December 04, 2008
Quote from: Roy on December 04, 2008
I don't have an elk gun... yet LOL. 

Sounds like an old 54 flinter is about right  dntn
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: FrankG on December 04, 2008
That will do the trick !
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roy on December 04, 2008
I have lots of barrels... .58 jaeger may do the trick.  ;D
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: FrankG on December 04, 2008
Oh ya ! That will work !
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Chaffa Hosa on December 04, 2008
Quote from: Roy on December 04, 2008
I have lots of barrels... .58 jaeger may do the trick.  ;D

Build it, send it to me for testing . I'll send it back around 2020 or later
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roy on December 04, 2008
just checked... don't have a .54 barrel for me anyway LOL    Got a couple smoothbore barrels that would do the trick tho.  ;D   I think the jaeger would be more fitting..
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roy on December 04, 2008
Quote from: jbullard1 on December 04, 2008
Quote from: Roy on December 04, 2008
I have lots of barrels... .58 jaeger may do the trick.  ;D

Build it, send it to me for testing . I'll send it back around 2020 or later

just a little testing huh?  ROFL
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roaring Bull on December 04, 2008
Texas is a good place to check them out too....lots of wide open spaces.
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: FrankG on December 04, 2008
Quote from: Sir Roaring Bull on December 04, 2008
Texas is a good place to check them out too....lots of wide open spaces.

For them looooonnngg shots  thmbsup
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roaring Bull on December 04, 2008
the range we shoot at has 250, 500, 750 and 1000 yard targets!!
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roy on December 04, 2008
That would be fun... I do have a cannon in the yard  ROFL
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: FrankG on December 04, 2008
how bout the wall gun on your site ?
Title: Re: Scratch build ,build along
Post by: Roy on December 05, 2008
That lives down in Atlanta.. but I could get it LOL.   devel