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Title: Fire rings
Post by: Red Badger on July 25, 2011, 04:22:34 AM

we all know that metal fire rings are most likely a modren invention and that the true mountain man had more important things to haul up the mountain than a metal ring to contain his fire.  Most of them would use a pit or rocks to contain the fire when they had one, I get the impression that most times unles they were in a known safe area the fire if they had one at all was kept very small to make detection by hostile neighbors more difficult.

That being said as a way of introduction to the topic, how do you contain your fire in this modern day and age? 

I personally have and use two fire rings one made from a 15 inch steel rim from a pickup with the center cut out of it, and a steel rim from a semi truck also made of steel.  they may not be PC but fire safety is nothing to take for granted especially since our camps are made of canvas...
Title: Re: Fire rings
Post by: crazell on July 25, 2011, 04:39:09 AM
I've dug pits and used rocks to contain the fire. Out here some people use the washing machine tub. It works great, Has all the holes for even burning. some have welded top grates or solid steel to the top for cooking on. Cut doors in the side to put wood in it, and a stove pipe and legs. I'll take a picture tomorrow and post the one we used a few times.
Title: Re: Fire rings
Post by: Dogshirt on July 25, 2011, 04:43:36 AM
I have used the semi rim for about 20 years. Kind of heavy, but I've never had
problems with the fire getting away!
Title: Re: Fire rings
Post by: old salt on July 25, 2011, 05:52:55 AM
I use a 12" X 24"  by 10" deep  metal box with grate on top and 12" legs. get it up so I do not have get down on the ground.
Title: Re: Fire rings
Post by: pathfinder on July 25, 2011, 11:52:52 AM
Shallow hole with the dirt piled around it. Clear debris from the area and don't build a bonfire.
Title: Re: Fire rings
Post by: gordy on July 25, 2011, 07:17:14 PM
     Most of the folks out my way use the inner tub from an automaic washer. I have used the outer tub by punching a few holes around the bottom , but the perforated inner tub really builds heat fast and will consume most any wood even if somewhat green. The multiple holes act like a vanturi .
    Just my opinion , but for the most part I doubt that wild fires were a big concern to the oldtimers. Its only been in the last few years that the conservation depts discovered the fires actually helped the natural growth cycle.
                                                        flwa    thmbsup
Title: Re: Fire rings
Post by: Rev on July 25, 2011, 08:17:05 PM
I produce & sell these. Made from half a propane bottle & fits over the top of my 5 gallon water jug, so it literally takes up no room, other than the tripod, which comes apart & takes up almost no space. The reason I went this way? Simple, wash tubs & wheels & such take up way too much space! This can also run on propane when they won't allow wood fires... Also has a lid from a 5 gallon canning pot that I keep underneath to catch any hot ash that falls thru the whole in the bottom where the valve used to be. When I want to go to bed, put on lid. No problems...

(http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd470/Doc20111/P1010100a.jpg)

That is my good friend Fairy Boots, lounging by the fire
He never would have wore that first pair of cheesy mocs if he knew how long camp names can last. Pity his poor wife who go's by Mrs. Fairy Boots... ROFL
BTW, that log he is leaning on is actually his cooler, plastic & foam lined. Not sure where he got it, but it blends in pretty well...
Title: Re: Fire rings
Post by: Dogshirt on July 25, 2011, 10:39:47 PM
Really like the cooler! See if you can find out please. Also, I like your fire set up.
I started using the semi rim because someone left it in our elk camp site. It worked
really well when I had the Scout troop.
Title: Re: Fire rings
Post by: Watauga on July 25, 2011, 10:44:44 PM
Quote from: Dogshirt on July 25, 2011, 10:39:47 PM
Really like the cooler! See if you can find out please. Also, I like your fire set up.
I started using the semi rim because someone left it in our elk camp site. It worked
really well when I had the Scout troop.
It seems that more and more places are going the with "no Ground Fire" Rules.
Rev has a nice set up for sure!
The Cooler is awesome too!
Title: Re: Fire rings
Post by: crazell on July 25, 2011, 10:47:57 PM
Love that cooler. You'd just have to let everyone not to split  or throw in the fire... ROFL ROFL
Title: Re: Fire rings
Post by: Red Badger on July 25, 2011, 10:52:23 PM
I too like Rev's set up and am seriously thinking of either duplicating it or buying one.  My big fire ring (the Semi rim) has slots cut into it to allow air flow.... and it weighs enough (about 50 lbs) to sink into the ground so when I am done with it and add water the water stays in the ring until the embers are cold.  I am worried about the fact that the dry conditions are going to make any open fire illegal this year...

I also would like more information about the cooler!  I am making a wooden box to store my cooler in but for right now I just cover it with canvas
Title: Re: Fire rings
Post by: Dogshirt on July 25, 2011, 10:55:05 PM
Quote from: crazell on July 25, 2011, 10:47:57 PM
Love that cooler. You'd just have to let everyone not to split  or throw in the fire... ROFL ROFL

In my camp that would constitute alcohol abuse! "Get a rope!"
Title: Re: Fire rings
Post by: crazell on July 25, 2011, 10:56:28 PM
I 2nd that emotion!! whipping Is what you would get....
Title: Re: Fire rings
Post by: Hammerhead on July 25, 2011, 11:02:47 PM
where do i find a cooler like that. good place to keep "koolaid"
Title: Re: Fire rings
Post by: Dogshirt on July 25, 2011, 11:20:35 PM
Koolaid, riiiiiiiiight, uh huh! bs
Title: Re: Fire rings
Post by: Rev on July 26, 2011, 12:30:44 AM
As I said, I am not sure where he got it or if is still available...
Title: Re: Fire rings
Post by: Rev on July 27, 2011, 06:34:38 PM
Hers what he told me...

"Yeah
I've had the same problem.
I'd have bought 20 of them if I'd known.
They came from www.sportsmansguide.com '
The only ones I've seen since then had logos on them "
Title: Re: Fire rings
Post by: texasranger on February 25, 2012, 12:05:40 AM
for a fire ring I use a 30 gal. drum cut down to about a third. been using it for years and it serves me and the boys well. use a tripod over it or a cooking grill.
Title: Re: Fire rings
Post by: Don on September 02, 2014, 01:08:54 AM
I just use my braziers.....I can use natural charcoal or wood and they are period correct. hi:
Title: Re: Fire rings
Post by: beowulf on May 05, 2015, 11:18:03 AM
Quote from: Rev on July 25, 2011, 08:17:05 PM
I produce & sell these. Made from half a propane bottle & fits over the top of my 5 gallon water jug, so it literally takes up no room, other than the tripod, which comes apart & takes up almost no space. The reason I went this way? Simple, wash tubs & wheels & such take up way too much space! This can also run on propane when they won't allow wood fires... Also has a lid from a 5 gallon canning pot that I keep underneath to catch any hot ash that falls thru the whole in the bottom where the valve used to be. When I want to go to bed, put on lid. No problems...

(http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd470/Doc20111/P1010100a.jpg)

That is my good friend Fairy Boots, lounging by the fire
He never would have wore that first pair of cheesy mocs if he knew how long camp names can last. Pity his poor wife who go's by Mrs. Fairy Boots... ROFL
BTW, that log he is leaning on is actually his cooler, plastic & foam lined. Not sure where he got it, but it blends in pretty well...
have to say that is the one of the most inventive ways I`ve seen to hide a cooler !   thmbsup , and an interesting fire ring ,I would`nt have thought up either of them !
Title: Re: Fire rings
Post by: William on May 06, 2015, 12:06:17 AM
Quote from: beowulf on May 05, 2015, 11:18:03 AM
Quote from: Rev on July 25, 2011, 08:17:05 PM
I produce & sell these. Made from half a propane bottle & fits over the top of my 5 gallon water jug, so it literally takes up no room, other than the tripod, which comes apart & takes up almost no space. The reason I went this way? Simple, wash tubs & wheels & such take up way too much space! This can also run on propane when they won't allow wood fires... Also has a lid from a 5 gallon canning pot that I keep underneath to catch any hot ash that falls thru the whole in the bottom where the valve used to be. When I want to go to bed, put on lid. No problems...

(http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd470/Doc20111/P1010100a.jpg)

That is my good friend Fairy Boots, lounging by the fire
He never would have wore that first pair of cheesy mocs if he knew how long camp names can last. Pity his poor wife who go's by Mrs. Fairy Boots... ROFL
BTW, that log he is leaning on is actually his cooler, plastic & foam lined. Not sure where he got it, but it blends in pretty well...

Goin' home, late last night
Suddenly I got a fright
Yeah I looked through a window and surprised what I saw
A fairy with boots and dancin' with a dwarf,
All right now!

Yeah, fairies wear boots and you gotta believe me
Yeah I saw it, I saw it, I tell you no lies
Yeah Fairies wear boots and you gotta believe me
I saw it, I saw it with my own two eyes,
Oh all right now!

Yeah, fairies wear boots and you gotta believe me
Yeah I saw it, I saw it, I tell you no lies
Yeah fairies wear boots and you gotta believe me
I saw it, I saw it with my own two eyes,
All right now!


have to say that is the one of the most inventive ways I`ve seen to hide a cooler !   thmbsup , and an interesting fire ring ,I would`nt have thought up either of them !