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Title: pillow ticking or pre cuts
Post by: Hammerhead on May 30, 2011, 12:36:04 AM
which is better for patches pillow ticking or pre cuts
Title: Re: pillow ticking or pre cuts
Post by: graybear on May 30, 2011, 12:43:41 AM
Depends on the gun. You can even get precut pillow ticking. Half the funs finding out what your gun wants. You can get in a lot of shooting that way. I use both, depending on the gun I'm shooting
Title: Re: pillow ticking or pre cuts
Post by: roundball on May 30, 2011, 01:35:58 AM
Quote from: Hammerhead on May 30, 2011, 12:36:04 AM
which is better for patches pillow ticking or pre cuts

Don't understand the question...everything is available in pre-cuts...cotton, pillow-ticking, both lubed and unlubed.
Title: Re: pillow ticking or pre cuts
Post by: pilgrim on May 30, 2011, 10:24:18 AM
I feel precut is more expensive, and ancesters didn't have or use precut, besides I enjoy using knives and doing things the old fashioned way
Title: Re: pillow ticking or pre cuts
Post by: Hanshi on May 30, 2011, 02:07:16 PM
All I can say about it is that I prefer to buy the ticking and cut it up in the appropriate size squares.  I find it more convenient and less problematic.  Plus you can keep them in the rifle's patchbox though I seldom do.  It's also cheaper and I really like CHEAP er, frugal.  I, too, like doing it the old time way with old time Hoppes #9 Plus BP lube and old time pillow ticking from old time Joanne's.  ;D
Title: Re: pillow ticking or pre cuts
Post by: Blackfeet on May 30, 2011, 02:17:31 PM
I just stopped in at the local fabric store, not Joann's this time ;D. I found a nice floral twill  (susp) at .012" and some black denim at .015" both at $4.00 a yd. I have ticking at .018" and .020' so I have most bases covered. Usually cut to rounds but will be trying squares this time for the 32 and 36.
Title: Re: pillow ticking or pre cuts
Post by: William on May 30, 2011, 07:31:10 PM
I'll echo what Graybear said, it all depends on the gun and that's half the fun.
Title: Re: pillow ticking or pre cuts
Post by: The Ghost on June 07, 2011, 04:31:33 AM
The hunters of the past most likely used precut patches.  Why would the fire arms have patch boxes?  The book on Dan'l Boone is very clear that most deer hunting was done at night. D. Boone used torches to kill deer or "Fire Hunting". Anyway I think you would use precut patching at night. Old Dan and his pals killed thousands of deer each year for the hides. What do you think. hntr
Title: Re: pillow ticking or pre cuts
Post by: billh on June 07, 2011, 11:29:53 AM
For myself, it really depends on the situation. For example, if its just a day at the range where I plan on doing a lot of shooting from the bench, I'll use pre-cut patches......it's easier. For a woods walk or hunting, I like to have a strip hanging from the sash on my shooting pouch. I found its easier to use this way if I am standing and means that my hand doesn't have to go into the pouch several different times. Which reminds me, I need to find my loading block! pnic
   
Title: Re: pillow ticking or pre cuts
Post by: flintboomer on June 07, 2011, 10:46:20 PM
I generally use strips that I cut or tear from bulk patching unless I am hunting or doing a mountain man run, then I will use either commercial precut patches or precut some square ones. A paper clip does a good job of keeping the precuts readily accessable in the pouch.
A yard of ticking or equivalent costs less than a package of 100 precuts and makes about 750 patches.
Title: Re: pillow ticking or pre cuts
Post by: The Ghost on June 08, 2011, 03:28:17 AM
I use an electric drill with cutters made from hole openers with the teeth ground off and a sharpened edge.With one of those cheap Harbor Freight drill presses you can cut hundreds of round patches in a short time.
Title: Re: pillow ticking or pre cuts
Post by: DandJofAZ on June 11, 2011, 10:58:46 PM
Went out shooting monday in 40mph wind....pillow ticking strip tied to belt was used after pack of precuts took off...they can fly right over 10' junipers...

Doug
Title: Re: pillow ticking or pre cuts
Post by: Hawken50 on June 11, 2011, 11:16:53 PM
 [hmm] Use pillow ticking strips myself,cut at the muzzle.My muzzleloadin is my relax time,so imnot in no hurry,and i just like to,no good reason really.Use either,they both work just fine.
Title: Re: pillow ticking or pre cuts
Post by: The Ghost on June 12, 2011, 02:53:27 AM
Dand jo if you can not hold on to your patches in wind how did you ever pour your powder? [hmm]
Title: Re: pillow ticking or pre cuts
Post by: chuck w. on June 14, 2011, 08:38:06 PM
I use pre-cuts since rolled pillow ticking doesn't work in loading blocks.
Title: Re: pillow ticking or pre cuts
Post by: DandJofAZ on June 14, 2011, 08:42:04 PM
Quote from: The Ghost on June 12, 2011, 02:53:27 AM
Dand jo if you can not hold on to your patches in wind how did you ever pour your powder? [hmm]

Now that too was interesting...my daughter solved her problem by grabbing a 30-30 and burning up a box of shells...I just cupped my hand over the barrel-measure joint and poored carefully....did take a little extra to fill the measure at times and didn't have to scrape it off even much....


Doug
Title: Re: pillow ticking or pre cuts
Post by: flintboomer on June 17, 2011, 02:42:57 AM
When the wind is really bad the trick is to put your back to the wind and cup the measure while pouring, then put your thumb over the measure until you pour it into the barrel, cup the muzzle and pour. It isn't always easy, but I load and shoot in some pretty brisk winds at times. Prime a flinter with the rifle pressed against your chest and close the frizzen immediately or your prime will blow away.
Percussion definitely has the advantage when priming in a bad wind.
Title: Re: pillow ticking or pre cuts
Post by: Blackfeet on June 17, 2011, 03:08:18 AM
I cheat a bit on that one. I am shooting mostly Percussion and had ordered several dozen small flip top vials that are 9/16" and hold up to about 100 grs. I pre-measure my loads and will have up to 50 on hand. They open with one hand and pour very well , even into the little 32 barrel.
Title: Re: pillow ticking or pre cuts
Post by: The Ghost on June 17, 2011, 03:50:24 AM
Where did you find the flip top viles??
Title: Re: pillow ticking or pre cuts
Post by: Blackfeet on June 17, 2011, 04:04:44 AM
McMaster Carr

http://www.mcmaster.com/#vials/=cs4e8n

Sold in qtys of ten
Title: Re: pillow ticking or pre cuts
Post by: mrclean100 on June 17, 2011, 12:57:40 PM
 i use strips , pre lubed ( 2 pt h20 1 pt ballistol and allowed to dry) and tied to my shooting bag when time isnt a factor ( shooting om the trail etc. ) but when time is important i use pre cut ( same strips , just cut into squares ) and when time is real important i use them in a loading block to save a few steps .
Title: Re: pillow ticking or pre cuts
Post by: ramrod on August 22, 2011, 04:24:17 AM
I started making my own pre cuts square.  I use a needle and dental floss through the middle and put about 100 together.  When I need a patch I just slide one off lube it and go.  They won't just fall off the floss so you can hang it on your bag is you wish.  I use one of those rotary cutters and a rotary cutter cutting board for both shooting and cleaning patches.  It works real good and you can cut 100+ patches in 10-15 minutes.
Title: Re: pillow ticking or pre cuts
Post by: VEARL on November 04, 2011, 11:18:52 PM
I use strips of lubed pillow ticking. Cut at muzzle. never to large or to small.
Also if I goof up at the range, the remainder can be used to hog tie me or hang me.  bunkr
Title: Re: pillow ticking or pre cuts
Post by: Red Badger on November 07, 2011, 12:23:38 AM
Quote from: VEARL on November 04, 2011, 11:18:52 PM
I use strips of lubed pillow ticking. Cut at muzzle. never to large or to small.
Also if I goof up at the range, the remainder can be used to hog tie me or hang me.  bunkr

thmbsup  around here we just might take you up on that offer!  At least the hog tie part.....  bunkr